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Anyone else think "at will" work states are a joke? Is it just me?
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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 576950" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>Ohio also has some really horrid teachers they just can't get out of the system either. I don't just mean those who can't teach, I mean abusive teachers as well. </p><p></p><p>I'm not necessarily anti-union. I just haven't seen recently where they've actually worked in favor of those whom they're intended to serve. I have seen far too many unions push companies to the point of closing their doors because they flat out refuse to compromise, thereby causing the workers to lose their jobs. This is all but folding up the city in which I grew up........which is a shame. I've also, unfortunately, been exposed to much of the corruption in the upper levels of some unions which would enrage the people they're working for if they ever figured it out.......my step dad was part of that along with a few other people I knew. Which is one of the reasons the man had such outrageous bank accounts. No one exposed them because they all knew each others secrets. ugh They could literally get away with murder in my hometown. (he did too ) </p><p></p><p>I just don't see how unions who do this sort of thing can convince those they're working for that they're doing them any favors. What difference does it make if they got you a raise and more retirement if 3 months later the company folds because they couldn't afford to pay it? I think I'd have be happy with the lower salary / benefits and to still have my job.</p><p></p><p>I've been in a union and it was a pretty good one overall. Only thing I can say is when they planned to strike I told them flat out I wouldn't be doing it. I had bills to pay and food to put on the table (Fred was out of work at the time). I said it loud and clear during the meeting. I said it loud and clear when they tried to convince me privately. I wouldn't say anything against them.....but a .50 raise was just not worth being evicted from my apartment or my kids going hungry. They wound up deciding not to strike, seems like more folks felt like I did than they thought. Had they went on strike? I'd have been crossing picket lines. Sorry, a whopping .50 cents is just not worth it to me. geez</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 576950, member: 84"] Ohio also has some really horrid teachers they just can't get out of the system either. I don't just mean those who can't teach, I mean abusive teachers as well. I'm not necessarily anti-union. I just haven't seen recently where they've actually worked in favor of those whom they're intended to serve. I have seen far too many unions push companies to the point of closing their doors because they flat out refuse to compromise, thereby causing the workers to lose their jobs. This is all but folding up the city in which I grew up........which is a shame. I've also, unfortunately, been exposed to much of the corruption in the upper levels of some unions which would enrage the people they're working for if they ever figured it out.......my step dad was part of that along with a few other people I knew. Which is one of the reasons the man had such outrageous bank accounts. No one exposed them because they all knew each others secrets. ugh They could literally get away with murder in my hometown. (he did too ) I just don't see how unions who do this sort of thing can convince those they're working for that they're doing them any favors. What difference does it make if they got you a raise and more retirement if 3 months later the company folds because they couldn't afford to pay it? I think I'd have be happy with the lower salary / benefits and to still have my job. I've been in a union and it was a pretty good one overall. Only thing I can say is when they planned to strike I told them flat out I wouldn't be doing it. I had bills to pay and food to put on the table (Fred was out of work at the time). I said it loud and clear during the meeting. I said it loud and clear when they tried to convince me privately. I wouldn't say anything against them.....but a .50 raise was just not worth being evicted from my apartment or my kids going hungry. They wound up deciding not to strike, seems like more folks felt like I did than they thought. Had they went on strike? I'd have been crossing picket lines. Sorry, a whopping .50 cents is just not worth it to me. geez [/QUOTE]
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