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Anyone else think "at will" work states are a joke? Is it just me?
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<blockquote data-quote="witzend" data-source="post: 577161" data-attributes="member: 99"><p>Because it was courtesy of the Unions that we got the 40 hour work week, child labor laws, workplace safety, standards of practice that make products safe, and eventually health insurance coverage and pensions that can't be raided by the employer before they sell you out to China. It's also through Unions that there are apprenticeship programs for electricians to learn how to not burn down everything they build, plumbers to learn how to not flood your crawl space or inside your walls and give you dry rot so your brand new house doesn't fall down around you (don't even let me get into what's happening to my 8 month old house built by "day laborers"), meat-cutters who know how to not get e-coli all over your food, auto manufacturers who build safe cars and don't try to skimp by using "just 8 less welds" than what they know has been proven safe, have some kid off the street that started work yesterday filling your loved one's medicine that's a matter of life and death, and child welfare workers who know not to have sex with the kids or turn them out to work in a sweatshop or out on the street. Is it perfect? No. But it ensures that people in skilled trades aren't doing all of those things that people say "Why wasn't someone paying attention?" when 40 guys die in a non-union mine that had been deemed unsafe 25 times in the last year because it was a "right to work" state. Safety regulations mean Jack All when you trust ginormous employers to be the only ones training their workers.</p><p></p><p>Seriously, if you're earning $17 an hour is $17 a month REALLY that much of a burden for those kinds of protections? Let me assure you, none of you working those #&*$ jobs for Head Start and Goodwill and whatever all else you've been complaining about getting shafted at and then fired when you complained weren't making what you would in a Union shop. Period. So, is it worth $204 a year to earn twice or three times as much money or more and band your small company of 15 together with 40,000 other people to protect your rights and know that when "Miss Her Stuff Don't Stink" because she's the supervisor's sister in law decides that she doesn't like you and you get canned for NOTHING and you've been working %#*& hours for no pay for the past 10 years and you have nothing to show for it can't get you fired? You decide. If you think not paying a measly amount of Union dues to avoid going back to the work practices of 1913, I suggest you look up your town and see what it was like to work in the mill or the meatpacking business a hundred years ago. You wouldn't wish that on your neighbor's dog.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="witzend, post: 577161, member: 99"] Because it was courtesy of the Unions that we got the 40 hour work week, child labor laws, workplace safety, standards of practice that make products safe, and eventually health insurance coverage and pensions that can't be raided by the employer before they sell you out to China. It's also through Unions that there are apprenticeship programs for electricians to learn how to not burn down everything they build, plumbers to learn how to not flood your crawl space or inside your walls and give you dry rot so your brand new house doesn't fall down around you (don't even let me get into what's happening to my 8 month old house built by "day laborers"), meat-cutters who know how to not get e-coli all over your food, auto manufacturers who build safe cars and don't try to skimp by using "just 8 less welds" than what they know has been proven safe, have some kid off the street that started work yesterday filling your loved one's medicine that's a matter of life and death, and child welfare workers who know not to have sex with the kids or turn them out to work in a sweatshop or out on the street. Is it perfect? No. But it ensures that people in skilled trades aren't doing all of those things that people say "Why wasn't someone paying attention?" when 40 guys die in a non-union mine that had been deemed unsafe 25 times in the last year because it was a "right to work" state. Safety regulations mean Jack All when you trust ginormous employers to be the only ones training their workers. Seriously, if you're earning $17 an hour is $17 a month REALLY that much of a burden for those kinds of protections? Let me assure you, none of you working those #&*$ jobs for Head Start and Goodwill and whatever all else you've been complaining about getting shafted at and then fired when you complained weren't making what you would in a Union shop. Period. So, is it worth $204 a year to earn twice or three times as much money or more and band your small company of 15 together with 40,000 other people to protect your rights and know that when "Miss Her Stuff Don't Stink" because she's the supervisor's sister in law decides that she doesn't like you and you get canned for NOTHING and you've been working %#*& hours for no pay for the past 10 years and you have nothing to show for it can't get you fired? You decide. If you think not paying a measly amount of Union dues to avoid going back to the work practices of 1913, I suggest you look up your town and see what it was like to work in the mill or the meatpacking business a hundred years ago. You wouldn't wish that on your neighbor's dog. [/QUOTE]
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