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<blockquote data-quote="Scent of Cedar *" data-source="post: 671493" data-attributes="member: 17461"><p>I agree, Copa.</p><p></p><p>I think what happens is so different a thing than for someone to just want a little something sweet. I want all of it until it's gone. It is a running joke at our house that I eat all the candy, or all the cookies, or all the donuts or pasta or ice cream. But that is not a funny thing when I am already experiencing symptoms and have more, anyway. After whatever is gone, I go through a kind of sugar craving withdrawal.</p><p></p><p>Or, pasta craving.</p><p></p><p>I do best when I have none of those things, but then, I will make something or go for pizza and BOOM. Normal things everyone does, and it is so easy to forget that I cannot have those things. Like your M, D H loves those things and feels loved when he has them. It is a happy thing for us. Until I get sicker and sicker and finally, stop. When I have eaten something I shouldn't, it seems sensitivity to everything increases.</p><p></p><p>How strange, that I do that. It has taken awhile for me to realize it. There was a time when we were all supposed to be eating high carb, low protein diets, remember? And I loved that. I wasn't sick, yet. Along in there somewhere is when I did get sick, though. It has been a trial and error thing since then, but I would absolutely say "compulsion" is the right word.</p><p></p><p>I am doing this diet with a combination of FODMAP too, Copa. </p><p></p><p>Sad and Frustrated private messaged me with information relative to sulfites used as preservatives in almost everything, and I am going to look into that aspect of things, too. (Thank you, Sad.)</p><p></p><p>Nomad, I am glad you are here too. It is difficult for me to believe myself about these sensitivities over time. I will eat cookies or pizza or ice cream or candy and it is like the cycle begins, again. Then, I put the pieces together and ~ it's like I am a little surprised to realize I really do have certain sensitivities, and that I do need to pay attention.</p><p></p><p>Copa, our thinking about remembering to eat adequately is right on, I think. I have been doing things like not having the pasta. So, I would eat salad and meat and that's all. I would be hungry all the time and eventually, eat the cookies or donuts or ice cream and be hooked again into the wrong things.</p><p></p><p>I believe this is true. I had not looked at it in that way. I too thought I was someone without discipline regarding these matters. In a way, it was a subtle way of justifying hating myself. How is it that I did not make that connection to inadequate calories and craving for pasta and sweets <em>and add more vegetables?</em></p><p></p><p>So, for those of us committing to these new ways of eating, that is an important piece. I would beat myself up too Copa, for having eaten things that made me sick knowing they might make me sick.</p><p></p><p>I was hungry.</p><p></p><p>And hooked into some kind of craving...maybe, because I <em>was </em>hungry.</p><p></p><p>So, we will have to be sure we serve two or three vegetables and extra meat too, if we can, so that calorie hunger doesn't happen. For those who can eat legumes or nuts, those would be important things to include. I cannot do those things without having a reaction. Remember when I made that baklava last year? It was full of pecans and so delicious and I was so freaking sick until it was finally gone!</p><p></p><p>Yum.</p><p></p><p>I am making that again this year.</p><p></p><p>Or maybe, we can find other, equally delicious ways to celebrate the holidays, and share those recipes on the Conduct Disorders healthy eating thread.</p><p></p><p>I only know recipes for things that I shouldn't be eating.</p><p></p><p>I am...I would not like to lose more weight. (Here is a joke: An older woman and a younger woman were discussing undergarments. The older woman told the younger that she had stopped wearing bras altogether years ago. The younger woman asked whether that was healthy for the breast tissue. The older woman replied: "Oh honey, at my age that doesn't matter. All I have left is the bags they came in."</p><p></p><p>:O)</p><p></p><p>Where was I going with this.</p><p></p><p>I am so grateful we are in this, together. It will be easier for me to take myself seriously now.</p><p></p><p>D H never believes me until I am sitting there swollen up and having trouble breathing. He is just so Italian. He wants us to eat together and sees that as celebration and he does not like it when we eat different things. But it is real, what happens when I try not to eat enough of the offending foods to be full, and am hungry, and get sick...and am accused of eating cookies or donuts though I know they are not good for me when in fact, I haven't been taking in enough calories or nutrients and that is why I am still hungry.</p><p></p><p>An interesting little circle I might not have seen, had it not been for this discussion.</p><p></p><p>What we need is a tee shirt with the slogan: Donuts happen.</p><p></p><p>Surely, this is an existential truth.</p><p></p><p>Cedar</p><p></p><p>allrecipes.com has a section of Paleo Diet recipes.</p><p></p><p>I have to do some more exploration, there.</p><p></p><p>FODMAP recipes:</p><p></p><p><a href="http://fodmapliving.com/sample-page/" target="_blank">http://fodmapliving.com/sample-page/</a></p><p></p><p><a href="http://paleoleap.com/paleo-guide-to-your-immune-system/" target="_blank">http://paleoleap.com/paleo-guide-to-your-immune-system/</a></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Scent of Cedar *, post: 671493, member: 17461"] I agree, Copa. I think what happens is so different a thing than for someone to just want a little something sweet. I want all of it until it's gone. It is a running joke at our house that I eat all the candy, or all the cookies, or all the donuts or pasta or ice cream. But that is not a funny thing when I am already experiencing symptoms and have more, anyway. After whatever is gone, I go through a kind of sugar craving withdrawal. Or, pasta craving. I do best when I have none of those things, but then, I will make something or go for pizza and BOOM. Normal things everyone does, and it is so easy to forget that I cannot have those things. Like your M, D H loves those things and feels loved when he has them. It is a happy thing for us. Until I get sicker and sicker and finally, stop. When I have eaten something I shouldn't, it seems sensitivity to everything increases. How strange, that I do that. It has taken awhile for me to realize it. There was a time when we were all supposed to be eating high carb, low protein diets, remember? And I loved that. I wasn't sick, yet. Along in there somewhere is when I did get sick, though. It has been a trial and error thing since then, but I would absolutely say "compulsion" is the right word. I am doing this diet with a combination of FODMAP too, Copa. Sad and Frustrated private messaged me with information relative to sulfites used as preservatives in almost everything, and I am going to look into that aspect of things, too. (Thank you, Sad.) Nomad, I am glad you are here too. It is difficult for me to believe myself about these sensitivities over time. I will eat cookies or pizza or ice cream or candy and it is like the cycle begins, again. Then, I put the pieces together and ~ it's like I am a little surprised to realize I really do have certain sensitivities, and that I do need to pay attention. Copa, our thinking about remembering to eat adequately is right on, I think. I have been doing things like not having the pasta. So, I would eat salad and meat and that's all. I would be hungry all the time and eventually, eat the cookies or donuts or ice cream and be hooked again into the wrong things. I believe this is true. I had not looked at it in that way. I too thought I was someone without discipline regarding these matters. In a way, it was a subtle way of justifying hating myself. How is it that I did not make that connection to inadequate calories and craving for pasta and sweets [I]and add more vegetables?[/I] So, for those of us committing to these new ways of eating, that is an important piece. I would beat myself up too Copa, for having eaten things that made me sick knowing they might make me sick. I was hungry. And hooked into some kind of craving...maybe, because I [I]was [/I]hungry. So, we will have to be sure we serve two or three vegetables and extra meat too, if we can, so that calorie hunger doesn't happen. For those who can eat legumes or nuts, those would be important things to include. I cannot do those things without having a reaction. Remember when I made that baklava last year? It was full of pecans and so delicious and I was so freaking sick until it was finally gone! Yum. I am making that again this year. Or maybe, we can find other, equally delicious ways to celebrate the holidays, and share those recipes on the Conduct Disorders healthy eating thread. I only know recipes for things that I shouldn't be eating. I am...I would not like to lose more weight. (Here is a joke: An older woman and a younger woman were discussing undergarments. The older woman told the younger that she had stopped wearing bras altogether years ago. The younger woman asked whether that was healthy for the breast tissue. The older woman replied: "Oh honey, at my age that doesn't matter. All I have left is the bags they came in." :O) Where was I going with this. I am so grateful we are in this, together. It will be easier for me to take myself seriously now. D H never believes me until I am sitting there swollen up and having trouble breathing. He is just so Italian. He wants us to eat together and sees that as celebration and he does not like it when we eat different things. But it is real, what happens when I try not to eat enough of the offending foods to be full, and am hungry, and get sick...and am accused of eating cookies or donuts though I know they are not good for me when in fact, I haven't been taking in enough calories or nutrients and that is why I am still hungry. An interesting little circle I might not have seen, had it not been for this discussion. What we need is a tee shirt with the slogan: Donuts happen. Surely, this is an existential truth. Cedar allrecipes.com has a section of Paleo Diet recipes. I have to do some more exploration, there. FODMAP recipes: [URL]http://fodmapliving.com/sample-page/[/URL] [URL]http://paleoleap.com/paleo-guide-to-your-immune-system/[/URL] [/QUOTE]
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