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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 399643" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Drug use was one of the things that seems very possible in my mind also. She likely won't respond well to the demand that she comply with the test - and that shouldn't matter a single bit. If she is negative it does NOT mean that she is "drug free" because things like "skittling" (taking large doses of OTC medications containing dextromethorphan) do not show up. I strongly urge you to buy a home test kit and mail the sample off rather than trusting the lab your doctor will use. MOST docs do NOT know how to truly understand drug testing and the results, regardless of what they say. My pain doctor explained them to me - docs who rx these medications regularly are the ones who truly understand them. My family doctor proved to me how clueless most docs are. She is a very well read doctor, and thought she understood the tests. But what her lab tested for, and the results they came up with, are not possible. The same happened to me at our local hospital - exept that they did a test that gave a false positive for meth because I had phenergan in my system. My pain doctor says it is actually common and most meth tests give false positives more than real ones. Talk about soemthing SCARY! After reading a letter my pain doctor sent the family doctor was able to see that the tests were giving the wrong answers, but it really shocked her - and scared her. (This doctor is one of the most down to earth, understanding realistic docs I have ever known and for it to scare her says a whole lot.)</p><p> </p><p>It is IMPORTANT to use a lab that primarily does drug tests if you want the real results. They know how to identify a false positive and how to counteract all the things that teens do to try to fool the tests. Even my pain doctor mails the samples out because the labs in our big cities don't specialize in those tests.</p><p> </p><p>My other thought is that the food is causing this. I think this may be the truth. If true, she needs to have her eyes opened up to what these foods do in her body. For your difficult child these foods ARE drugs. They are mind-altering substances and this shows in her behavior. You cannot get her to "buy in" to this diet if she looks at it like a diet. If she, and you, look at those foods as drugs it sheds a whole new light on things. She can argue, but MANY things can be food or drugs. For me, papaya and avocados are dangerous drugs. I cannot handle some of the chemicals that other people enjoy in these foods. I get very hot, my face turns bright red, and if I have eaten more than just a small taste I feel like I am choking. I may go and pick wild greens to make a salad but I am NOT going to pick leaves from a belladonna plant because it would make me sick, possibly give me hallucinations and possibly kill me. JUST like a drug. If I were to take speed it is likely I would be very awake and would have problems like shaky hands - and if I drink too much coffee or soda I get the same results.</p><p> </p><p>Lots of magazines and journals and even medical info tells you which foods to eat to cure this problem or reduce that one. So food is medicine (drugs) for a LOT of people - and they are for your daughter also. If she can learn to see this, she can see more of WHY she needs to not "take" them. If she cannot, well, you and husband might consider using some of the same sanctions that you would impose for drug use. No money for ANYTHING. No going anywhere with-o an adult to chaperone her. No phone or internet use. Even strip her possessions to the bare minimum so that you can be sure she has no contraband in her room. </p><p> </p><p>Yes, it may seem extreme. Her reaction to those food is pretty extreme too. This is the only way that I can see that you might have a chance to really make her see and accept the limits she needs to ahve in her diet. A way to help her learn to resist temptation.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 399643, member: 1233"] Drug use was one of the things that seems very possible in my mind also. She likely won't respond well to the demand that she comply with the test - and that shouldn't matter a single bit. If she is negative it does NOT mean that she is "drug free" because things like "skittling" (taking large doses of OTC medications containing dextromethorphan) do not show up. I strongly urge you to buy a home test kit and mail the sample off rather than trusting the lab your doctor will use. MOST docs do NOT know how to truly understand drug testing and the results, regardless of what they say. My pain doctor explained them to me - docs who rx these medications regularly are the ones who truly understand them. My family doctor proved to me how clueless most docs are. She is a very well read doctor, and thought she understood the tests. But what her lab tested for, and the results they came up with, are not possible. The same happened to me at our local hospital - exept that they did a test that gave a false positive for meth because I had phenergan in my system. My pain doctor says it is actually common and most meth tests give false positives more than real ones. Talk about soemthing SCARY! After reading a letter my pain doctor sent the family doctor was able to see that the tests were giving the wrong answers, but it really shocked her - and scared her. (This doctor is one of the most down to earth, understanding realistic docs I have ever known and for it to scare her says a whole lot.) It is IMPORTANT to use a lab that primarily does drug tests if you want the real results. They know how to identify a false positive and how to counteract all the things that teens do to try to fool the tests. Even my pain doctor mails the samples out because the labs in our big cities don't specialize in those tests. My other thought is that the food is causing this. I think this may be the truth. If true, she needs to have her eyes opened up to what these foods do in her body. For your difficult child these foods ARE drugs. They are mind-altering substances and this shows in her behavior. You cannot get her to "buy in" to this diet if she looks at it like a diet. If she, and you, look at those foods as drugs it sheds a whole new light on things. She can argue, but MANY things can be food or drugs. For me, papaya and avocados are dangerous drugs. I cannot handle some of the chemicals that other people enjoy in these foods. I get very hot, my face turns bright red, and if I have eaten more than just a small taste I feel like I am choking. I may go and pick wild greens to make a salad but I am NOT going to pick leaves from a belladonna plant because it would make me sick, possibly give me hallucinations and possibly kill me. JUST like a drug. If I were to take speed it is likely I would be very awake and would have problems like shaky hands - and if I drink too much coffee or soda I get the same results. Lots of magazines and journals and even medical info tells you which foods to eat to cure this problem or reduce that one. So food is medicine (drugs) for a LOT of people - and they are for your daughter also. If she can learn to see this, she can see more of WHY she needs to not "take" them. If she cannot, well, you and husband might consider using some of the same sanctions that you would impose for drug use. No money for ANYTHING. No going anywhere with-o an adult to chaperone her. No phone or internet use. Even strip her possessions to the bare minimum so that you can be sure she has no contraband in her room. Yes, it may seem extreme. Her reaction to those food is pretty extreme too. This is the only way that I can see that you might have a chance to really make her see and accept the limits she needs to ahve in her diet. A way to help her learn to resist temptation. [/QUOTE]
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