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Bakersfield nurse refuses CPR, elderly patient dies
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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 583104" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I wondered a couple things when I read this article. First was about the Good Samaritan Laws in CA. Good Sam laws state that if you render aid to a person in an emergency situation, then you cannot be held liable for civil charges. Seems back in 2008 the CA courts said rendering medical aid was covered and non-medical aid was not. CA state legislators fixed this quickly.</p><p></p><p>I looked this up because when i was a manager in OH I learned all about their bizarre laws on this topic, like the one that lets the person who's life you saved with CPR or the heimlich sue you for any/all damaged caused by those things. CPR often breaks or bruises ribs, and other things can also happen.. </p><p></p><p>I think corporate was attempting to make sure they cannot be sued with this policy. I also think it is designed to drive residents to the more expensive areas of the facility like the assisted living side. I hope that MANY people move their loved ones to safer residences. The family should also sue the company because this is pretty much neglect.</p><p></p><p>While most people do not have a duty to act in an emergency like this, the same isn't generally true for those in the medical field, esp doctors and nurses. They have a duty to save lives when possible and appropriate. By appropriate I mean if the person has a do not resuscitate order or a living will preventing things like CPR. It likely may be that she could face criminal charges for not even attempting to do CPR. It is also possible that she could face problems with the licensing board even if the state laws do not provide for civil or criminal liability. </p><p></p><p>I feel very bad for the woman. It is hard to watch anyone die, and it must be awful to see someone in such pain and fear and feel you cannot use your training to help them. This will likely take a HUGE toll on her life.</p><p></p><p>I can understand the fear of losing a job because you violated policy on a recording, but I just can't see letting someone die over it. But that is me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 583104, member: 1233"] I wondered a couple things when I read this article. First was about the Good Samaritan Laws in CA. Good Sam laws state that if you render aid to a person in an emergency situation, then you cannot be held liable for civil charges. Seems back in 2008 the CA courts said rendering medical aid was covered and non-medical aid was not. CA state legislators fixed this quickly. I looked this up because when i was a manager in OH I learned all about their bizarre laws on this topic, like the one that lets the person who's life you saved with CPR or the heimlich sue you for any/all damaged caused by those things. CPR often breaks or bruises ribs, and other things can also happen.. I think corporate was attempting to make sure they cannot be sued with this policy. I also think it is designed to drive residents to the more expensive areas of the facility like the assisted living side. I hope that MANY people move their loved ones to safer residences. The family should also sue the company because this is pretty much neglect. While most people do not have a duty to act in an emergency like this, the same isn't generally true for those in the medical field, esp doctors and nurses. They have a duty to save lives when possible and appropriate. By appropriate I mean if the person has a do not resuscitate order or a living will preventing things like CPR. It likely may be that she could face criminal charges for not even attempting to do CPR. It is also possible that she could face problems with the licensing board even if the state laws do not provide for civil or criminal liability. I feel very bad for the woman. It is hard to watch anyone die, and it must be awful to see someone in such pain and fear and feel you cannot use your training to help them. This will likely take a HUGE toll on her life. I can understand the fear of losing a job because you violated policy on a recording, but I just can't see letting someone die over it. But that is me. [/QUOTE]
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