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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 309475" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I'm not going to refer to religious opinions here, just "opinions of special interest groups". Because I find it seems more connected with that, than with genuine, informed, educated, considered opinion.</p><p></p><p>People who really THINK about a topic before coming to a conclusion will be people I will always be willnig to talk to about a topic. But those who have a blanket approach based on what someone else has told them, especially what someone else has told them they should be thinking or saying - I have found that it saves time to whistle and walk away. DO NOT ENGAGE - because if they refuse to be informed, then trying to talk to them will be met (at least metaphorically) with them sticking their fingers in their ears and saying, "la, la, la, la..."</p><p></p><p>Example - back in early 1974, I was visiting a friend with a really great sound system. He also tended to have the latest albums. We enjoyed listening to "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" and a somewhat avant-garde album from Britain, "Tubular Bells". There was great stuff on both albums, each very different. "Tubular Bells" had a wide range of different tracks, all leading up to the title track which was a modern take on an old idea - begin with a single theme and keep adding another instrument until you have the full effect. I thik Purcell did it. Even "Peter & the Wolf" had aversion of it, with each instrument representing a different animal and having its own theme, all of it coming together in the finale. Nothing unusual there, nothing controversial.</p><p></p><p>Then the film "The Exorcist" came out, using part of one track from "Tubular Bells" in its theme. Suddenly certain groups wanted the album banned because it as "satanic". Nothing to do with the movie (which deom a religious point of view was a classic good vs evil battle with good winning). No, I was told that "Tubula Bells" was satanic, because the repetitious nature of the theme was hypnotic and such exposure to the mindless repetition left your soul vulnerable to invasion by evil forces. Gee, if that were so then my mind was invaded long ago, thanks to midlessly repetitive maths lessons at school!</p><p></p><p>That album had been around without protest for about a year, before the "ooh, watch out, it's satanic" rubbish was tossed around.</p><p></p><p>What I'm saying - too many of these protests about books, music, ideas - they come from people merely repeating scare-mongering hysteria instead of people really THINKING about the topic. And more than anything else, I get really angry with people mindlessly repeating bigotry and fear-mongering, simply because someone else has said, "it's a worry."</p><p></p><p>Talk about soulless, hypnotic, mind-destroying repetition...</p><p></p><p>And I STILL think "Tubular Bells" is a great album!</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 309475, member: 1991"] I'm not going to refer to religious opinions here, just "opinions of special interest groups". Because I find it seems more connected with that, than with genuine, informed, educated, considered opinion. People who really THINK about a topic before coming to a conclusion will be people I will always be willnig to talk to about a topic. But those who have a blanket approach based on what someone else has told them, especially what someone else has told them they should be thinking or saying - I have found that it saves time to whistle and walk away. DO NOT ENGAGE - because if they refuse to be informed, then trying to talk to them will be met (at least metaphorically) with them sticking their fingers in their ears and saying, "la, la, la, la..." Example - back in early 1974, I was visiting a friend with a really great sound system. He also tended to have the latest albums. We enjoyed listening to "Goodbye Yellow Brick Road" and a somewhat avant-garde album from Britain, "Tubular Bells". There was great stuff on both albums, each very different. "Tubular Bells" had a wide range of different tracks, all leading up to the title track which was a modern take on an old idea - begin with a single theme and keep adding another instrument until you have the full effect. I thik Purcell did it. Even "Peter & the Wolf" had aversion of it, with each instrument representing a different animal and having its own theme, all of it coming together in the finale. Nothing unusual there, nothing controversial. Then the film "The Exorcist" came out, using part of one track from "Tubular Bells" in its theme. Suddenly certain groups wanted the album banned because it as "satanic". Nothing to do with the movie (which deom a religious point of view was a classic good vs evil battle with good winning). No, I was told that "Tubula Bells" was satanic, because the repetitious nature of the theme was hypnotic and such exposure to the mindless repetition left your soul vulnerable to invasion by evil forces. Gee, if that were so then my mind was invaded long ago, thanks to midlessly repetitive maths lessons at school! That album had been around without protest for about a year, before the "ooh, watch out, it's satanic" rubbish was tossed around. What I'm saying - too many of these protests about books, music, ideas - they come from people merely repeating scare-mongering hysteria instead of people really THINKING about the topic. And more than anything else, I get really angry with people mindlessly repeating bigotry and fear-mongering, simply because someone else has said, "it's a worry." Talk about soulless, hypnotic, mind-destroying repetition... And I STILL think "Tubular Bells" is a great album! Marg [/QUOTE]
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