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<blockquote data-quote="Arielle" data-source="post: 132187" data-attributes="member: 4621"><p>Arielle,</p><p> </p><p>I hope I did not upset you about the "asking husband about taking her to a child psychiartist". It was NOT meant as any kind of insult. I just have seen families where one parent objected and it didn't occur to the other to make the kind of deal you have with your husband. Do you have a time frame for trying the tutoring and more mom time before you see a child psychiatrist? I am asking because it can take MONTHS to get a new patient appointment with a psychiatrist, so it might be worthwhile to make the appointment and then cancel it if you see it isn't needed. That way you get treatment in a more timely manner IF you and husband decide it is needed. (I mention this because it took over 5 months to get our difficult child's first psychiatrist appointment - they scheduled that far ahead.)</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">Susie - Not to worry. I did not take it as an insult whatsover. I, for one, am not thrilled about getting a tutor for daughter. husband and the Psychologist believe it would do daughter good to get the undivided attention of someone else and it would free up the 4 or more hours of homework per day she spends with me. Personally, I do not see this as changing daughter's defiant and explosive behavior, but we shall see. The suggestion seems contradictory, if you ask me. The psychologist believes that daughter's behavior had gotten worse once DS was born and he was getting most of the attention. Well, in my mind's eye, I feel daughter will be more jealous now that I give DS more attention while she is being tutored by a stranger. I have agreed to having a tutor on condition my husband agrees to daughter seeing a child psychiatrist if daughter's behavior does not improve. The psychologist has a child psychiatrist in mind and will consult with the child psychiatric when that time comes.</span></p><p> </p><p>Has your daughter been tested for urinary tract infections? They can arise from constipation or fecal impaction - the mass of feces keeps the bladder form emptying fully. We had this with my daughter at about your daughter's age. a week of dulcolax and changing her posture on the toilet helped. </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">When the day-time soiling of her pants started back in September, we took her to a Dev. Pediatrician in November when we finally got an appointment. She did not indicate that she needed to have her tested for Urinary Tract Infection (UTI). She immediate suggested that we have daughter see a psychologist for behavior modification therapy and we have been doing that ever since. </span></p><p> </p><p>The urologist said that she needed to sit up straight and have her knees as far apart as possible - panties at the ankles or off. If she has trouble remembering to keep her knees apart, having her sit on the potty facing the tank (backwards) is recommended. It also gives something to hold on to, and sometimes kids ARE afraid they will be sucked into the toilet, or are afraid of the sound of the water. I was.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">daughter had no problems using the toilet for doing no. 2 before. This all just started in September. The psychologist thinks it is attention seeking, but I feel it is more emotional than just that. I have an appointment. with the psychiatric tonight and will bring up the issue again. daughter was good since XMAS and has just started soiling her pants again almost every day within the last week and a half. I am surprised none of these behaviors take place in school.</span></p><p> </p><p>I know from experiences in parent support groups for parents of kids with ADHD that often a child CAN concentrate when she is interested in something. Things with screens (tv, videogames, etc...) often are focused on. Sometimes to the extent of everything else.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">She seems to be able to focus intently on things she likes. TV, video games. She is an excellent swimmer and focuses well in those scenarios. She does well in school and is an A-B student, so she must be paying attention in class. She does not display any of these defiant behaviors at school. She is a model student and wants to be the teacher's pet. I have received no complaint so far this year from any teacher. Last year, in First Grade, the teacher commented that daughter was a great student, but needed to shift gears more quickly. For example, she was writing an essay about the Easter Bunny at Easter time. It became an Epic! It was time for the class to stop writing and switch to Math period. daughter wanted to complete her Essay and told the teacher she needed a few more minutes. </span></p><p> </p><p>Adhd CAN be a symptom of something else too. For children with Aspergers (NOT saying your daughter has this, just an example) ADHD is actually a facet of the disorder. Often given as a separate diagnosis, but much of the literature I have seen says it is part of the Aspergers. It helps get better/more/different insurance coverage to put is as a separate diagnosis. </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">I am hoping I get a more definitive diagnosis, once I take her to a child psychiatrist.</span></p><p> </p><p>Many many of us here have started with ADHD and ODD as our children's diagnosis, then later found it was something else. </p><p> </p><p>Toileting issues are NOT generally what children choose to be defiant over. I am sure that there are children somewhere who do this, but it is not typical. </p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">I just wish I knew what could be causing this. My Mom thinks it is sheer laziness from stopping to do whatever she is doing and running to the bathroom. My Mom and I have both been making daughter clean up her underwear and soak it in the sink after she has these episodes. So far, it has not deterred her from doing them. She is embarassed by the accidents and now has my Mom sworn to secrecy not to tell me. At home she hides her soiled underwear for me to find and now she does that at Grandma's house as well.</span></p><p> </p><p>Is your daughter on any medications? They can make a difference in bathroom accidents.</p><p> </p><p><span style="color: blue">She is not on any medications. The only medication we tried was the one for bed wetting. I only tried that on one occasion when we went away on a weekend trip. The pills did not work.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">THanks for your reply.</span></p><p> </p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Hugs,</span></p><p><span style="color: #0000ff">Arielle</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Arielle, post: 132187, member: 4621"] Arielle, I hope I did not upset you about the "asking husband about taking her to a child psychiartist". It was NOT meant as any kind of insult. I just have seen families where one parent objected and it didn't occur to the other to make the kind of deal you have with your husband. Do you have a time frame for trying the tutoring and more mom time before you see a child psychiatrist? I am asking because it can take MONTHS to get a new patient appointment with a psychiatrist, so it might be worthwhile to make the appointment and then cancel it if you see it isn't needed. That way you get treatment in a more timely manner IF you and husband decide it is needed. (I mention this because it took over 5 months to get our difficult child's first psychiatrist appointment - they scheduled that far ahead.) [COLOR=blue]Susie - Not to worry. I did not take it as an insult whatsover. I, for one, am not thrilled about getting a tutor for daughter. husband and the Psychologist believe it would do daughter good to get the undivided attention of someone else and it would free up the 4 or more hours of homework per day she spends with me. Personally, I do not see this as changing daughter's defiant and explosive behavior, but we shall see. The suggestion seems contradictory, if you ask me. The psychologist believes that daughter's behavior had gotten worse once DS was born and he was getting most of the attention. Well, in my mind's eye, I feel daughter will be more jealous now that I give DS more attention while she is being tutored by a stranger. I have agreed to having a tutor on condition my husband agrees to daughter seeing a child psychiatrist if daughter's behavior does not improve. The psychologist has a child psychiatrist in mind and will consult with the child psychiatric when that time comes.[/COLOR] Has your daughter been tested for urinary tract infections? They can arise from constipation or fecal impaction - the mass of feces keeps the bladder form emptying fully. We had this with my daughter at about your daughter's age. a week of dulcolax and changing her posture on the toilet helped. [COLOR=blue]When the day-time soiling of her pants started back in September, we took her to a Dev. Pediatrician in November when we finally got an appointment. She did not indicate that she needed to have her tested for Urinary Tract Infection (UTI). She immediate suggested that we have daughter see a psychologist for behavior modification therapy and we have been doing that ever since. [/COLOR] The urologist said that she needed to sit up straight and have her knees as far apart as possible - panties at the ankles or off. If she has trouble remembering to keep her knees apart, having her sit on the potty facing the tank (backwards) is recommended. It also gives something to hold on to, and sometimes kids ARE afraid they will be sucked into the toilet, or are afraid of the sound of the water. I was. [COLOR=blue]daughter had no problems using the toilet for doing no. 2 before. This all just started in September. The psychologist thinks it is attention seeking, but I feel it is more emotional than just that. I have an appointment. with the psychiatric tonight and will bring up the issue again. daughter was good since XMAS and has just started soiling her pants again almost every day within the last week and a half. I am surprised none of these behaviors take place in school.[/COLOR] I know from experiences in parent support groups for parents of kids with ADHD that often a child CAN concentrate when she is interested in something. Things with screens (tv, videogames, etc...) often are focused on. Sometimes to the extent of everything else. [COLOR=blue]She seems to be able to focus intently on things she likes. TV, video games. She is an excellent swimmer and focuses well in those scenarios. She does well in school and is an A-B student, so she must be paying attention in class. She does not display any of these defiant behaviors at school. She is a model student and wants to be the teacher's pet. I have received no complaint so far this year from any teacher. Last year, in First Grade, the teacher commented that daughter was a great student, but needed to shift gears more quickly. For example, she was writing an essay about the Easter Bunny at Easter time. It became an Epic! It was time for the class to stop writing and switch to Math period. daughter wanted to complete her Essay and told the teacher she needed a few more minutes. [/COLOR] Adhd CAN be a symptom of something else too. For children with Aspergers (NOT saying your daughter has this, just an example) ADHD is actually a facet of the disorder. Often given as a separate diagnosis, but much of the literature I have seen says it is part of the Aspergers. It helps get better/more/different insurance coverage to put is as a separate diagnosis. [COLOR=blue]I am hoping I get a more definitive diagnosis, once I take her to a child psychiatrist.[/COLOR] Many many of us here have started with ADHD and ODD as our children's diagnosis, then later found it was something else. Toileting issues are NOT generally what children choose to be defiant over. I am sure that there are children somewhere who do this, but it is not typical. [COLOR=blue]I just wish I knew what could be causing this. My Mom thinks it is sheer laziness from stopping to do whatever she is doing and running to the bathroom. My Mom and I have both been making daughter clean up her underwear and soak it in the sink after she has these episodes. So far, it has not deterred her from doing them. She is embarassed by the accidents and now has my Mom sworn to secrecy not to tell me. At home she hides her soiled underwear for me to find and now she does that at Grandma's house as well.[/COLOR] Is your daughter on any medications? They can make a difference in bathroom accidents. [COLOR=blue]She is not on any medications. The only medication we tried was the one for bed wetting. I only tried that on one occasion when we went away on a weekend trip. The pills did not work.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]THanks for your reply.[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Hugs,[/COLOR] [COLOR=#0000ff]Arielle[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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