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BEYOND FRUSTRATED WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM
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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 106505" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I agree about posting this on Special Education. Sounds like you are getting the right royal runaround treatment.</p><p></p><p>For future reference, brush up on meeting procedure. If you are in a meeting with someone and they request a meeting with you, you reply to them with, "We are meeting now. Please address this now or give me a reason why you cannot."</p><p></p><p>It is possible that the principal wanted to refer the matter to a subsequent meeting because he needed to get information he did not currently have, to answer your question/resolve the issue. But if nothing else, he should use the time while you are there with him, to gather your side of the story and hopefully speed up the information gathering process. For example, you are talking with the principal about the circumstances surrounding your child's injury. The principal, quite rightly in most cases, needs to get more than just your side of the story before he rules that there is a problem. After all, most times the parents' side of the story is based on what the child has told them. In order to be fair, the principal needs to interview others so he can get a more balanced perspective (which may thoroughly support the child's story, or it may not). The principal then is in a better position to make an informed decision.</p><p></p><p>But even if this is what he is doing, he still should take all the details from you, so he knows what questions to ask other people.</p><p></p><p>As for the teacher refusing to communicate with you - this is just unworkable. If this can't be fixed then the child should be moved.</p><p></p><p>As for not being permitted at school functions where parents are generally welcome - I would be getting legal advice, because this sort of thing could only happen if you have a reputation as someone undesirable in some way, to be present at the school. You need this sorted out legally, so you can either clear your name or resolve whatever the issue is.</p><p></p><p>If the problems is merely you asking for your child to be assessed, then something is wrong somewhere. If you maybe got a little heated in your firm request, and the school staff have chosen to view your behaviour as threatening (and you felt it was not) this would need a qualified third person to sort out (hence - legal representation, again).</p><p></p><p>Also be aware - it costs the education system to assess a child and it also costs them to have to put measures in place. A child who is gifted and learning disabled needs help at both ends of the learning spectrum - a double cost. A deliberately hamfisted assessment would average out the sub-scores and declare such a child to not need any help - "she's doing fine in some subjects, better than you would expect for a child with only an average IQ; she's not hampered in any way nor is she gifted, as you thought."</p><p>Such assessments seem to be common in our Aussie system and from what I read, also in some of your education systems in the US. </p><p></p><p>At the risk of offending people by using an evolution metaphor, assessing this way by education systems is selected for positively; it is more successful within the system, such assessors are rewarded by the system with more success professionally. The corollary of this, is that parents who complain about this and who can be effectively silenced, are selected against. We are sent into oblivion where they can get away with it, because we are challenging them on their turf. You need to recruit another, stronger species (a lawyer) in a symbiotic relationship, to help increase your chance of educational success.</p><p>Just be careful - some symbiotic relationships can easily turn parasitic!</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 106505, member: 1991"] I agree about posting this on Special Education. Sounds like you are getting the right royal runaround treatment. For future reference, brush up on meeting procedure. If you are in a meeting with someone and they request a meeting with you, you reply to them with, "We are meeting now. Please address this now or give me a reason why you cannot." It is possible that the principal wanted to refer the matter to a subsequent meeting because he needed to get information he did not currently have, to answer your question/resolve the issue. But if nothing else, he should use the time while you are there with him, to gather your side of the story and hopefully speed up the information gathering process. For example, you are talking with the principal about the circumstances surrounding your child's injury. The principal, quite rightly in most cases, needs to get more than just your side of the story before he rules that there is a problem. After all, most times the parents' side of the story is based on what the child has told them. In order to be fair, the principal needs to interview others so he can get a more balanced perspective (which may thoroughly support the child's story, or it may not). The principal then is in a better position to make an informed decision. But even if this is what he is doing, he still should take all the details from you, so he knows what questions to ask other people. As for the teacher refusing to communicate with you - this is just unworkable. If this can't be fixed then the child should be moved. As for not being permitted at school functions where parents are generally welcome - I would be getting legal advice, because this sort of thing could only happen if you have a reputation as someone undesirable in some way, to be present at the school. You need this sorted out legally, so you can either clear your name or resolve whatever the issue is. If the problems is merely you asking for your child to be assessed, then something is wrong somewhere. If you maybe got a little heated in your firm request, and the school staff have chosen to view your behaviour as threatening (and you felt it was not) this would need a qualified third person to sort out (hence - legal representation, again). Also be aware - it costs the education system to assess a child and it also costs them to have to put measures in place. A child who is gifted and learning disabled needs help at both ends of the learning spectrum - a double cost. A deliberately hamfisted assessment would average out the sub-scores and declare such a child to not need any help - "she's doing fine in some subjects, better than you would expect for a child with only an average IQ; she's not hampered in any way nor is she gifted, as you thought." Such assessments seem to be common in our Aussie system and from what I read, also in some of your education systems in the US. At the risk of offending people by using an evolution metaphor, assessing this way by education systems is selected for positively; it is more successful within the system, such assessors are rewarded by the system with more success professionally. The corollary of this, is that parents who complain about this and who can be effectively silenced, are selected against. We are sent into oblivion where they can get away with it, because we are challenging them on their turf. You need to recruit another, stronger species (a lawyer) in a symbiotic relationship, to help increase your chance of educational success. Just be careful - some symbiotic relationships can easily turn parasitic! Marg [/QUOTE]
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