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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 231727" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>I do agree that you can get both together, although I pity the clinician having to make that call. Not easy. I DO stand by the statement that medicine is a very inexact science.</p><p></p><p>And therein lies the trouble - clinicians really are cowards sometimes, once you get a certain (difficult to be certain) diagnosis, a lot of clinicians are like shep and will merely rubber-stamp the label and pass you on. That would be why your friend's son kept getting the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis over and over. Lucas too, I guess.</p><p></p><p>I think your suggested criterion (if it's BiPolar (BP) it will get worse, but respond to BiPolar (BP) treatment; whereas Aspies tend to adapt and seemingly improve, but without help will remain socailly clueless) is as good as anything, at least for now. And it IS possible (not desirable, but possible) to have diagnostic criteria using exclusion. CFIDS is a case in point - it still gets diagnosed by having certain characteristics, but in the exclusion of diagnosis with somethig else. Another example of imprecise diagnostics.</p><p></p><p>Yes, health professionals should keep up with their reading, but sometimes all the reading in the world won't protect you form making a wrong diagnosis - because the diagnostic criteria are still imprecise.</p><p></p><p>We had a wrong diagnosis with difficult child 1, until he was 14. That's eight years knowing something wasn't explained, but not knowing how to fix it. Eight years during a vital time in his education, when he got zero support. He's a very bright young man, but lacks the education to do what he really is capable of doing. Also lacks the confidence, hence his request to find a career in something that doesn't require any brain power. He is going to be VERY frustrated if he doesn't get more mental stimulation.</p><p></p><p>About the failure to recognise childhood BiPolar (BP) in Australia (my perception of this, that is) - we have an Aussie member on this site whose son really worries me, she's been trying to get some sort of understandable diagnosis and treatment for him and is really struggling, despite doing everything right. I am very angry with our health care system and our education system for its failure to help her. Very frustrating. PLus difficult child 3's friends at drama class - the range of problems is diverse, I suspect one young man with a diagnosis of Asperger's could have BiPolar (BP) as well - we see so many of them still not having a label that fits well, despite this group being more informed than most, more supported than most.</p><p></p><p>We have a good health care system Down Under, but it does have its drawbacks. Diagnosis of bipolar, where it's screaming at you that it's more than Asperger's, is one area that bugs me.</p><p></p><p>I know I'm critical of the article, MWM, but I do think it has its merit and the dscussion it promotes is DEFINITELY of value, we all need to be aware of the scope of problems in trying to pin down a diagnosis that fits.</p><p></p><p>marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 231727, member: 1991"] I do agree that you can get both together, although I pity the clinician having to make that call. Not easy. I DO stand by the statement that medicine is a very inexact science. And therein lies the trouble - clinicians really are cowards sometimes, once you get a certain (difficult to be certain) diagnosis, a lot of clinicians are like shep and will merely rubber-stamp the label and pass you on. That would be why your friend's son kept getting the BiPolar (BP) diagnosis over and over. Lucas too, I guess. I think your suggested criterion (if it's BiPolar (BP) it will get worse, but respond to BiPolar (BP) treatment; whereas Aspies tend to adapt and seemingly improve, but without help will remain socailly clueless) is as good as anything, at least for now. And it IS possible (not desirable, but possible) to have diagnostic criteria using exclusion. CFIDS is a case in point - it still gets diagnosed by having certain characteristics, but in the exclusion of diagnosis with somethig else. Another example of imprecise diagnostics. Yes, health professionals should keep up with their reading, but sometimes all the reading in the world won't protect you form making a wrong diagnosis - because the diagnostic criteria are still imprecise. We had a wrong diagnosis with difficult child 1, until he was 14. That's eight years knowing something wasn't explained, but not knowing how to fix it. Eight years during a vital time in his education, when he got zero support. He's a very bright young man, but lacks the education to do what he really is capable of doing. Also lacks the confidence, hence his request to find a career in something that doesn't require any brain power. He is going to be VERY frustrated if he doesn't get more mental stimulation. About the failure to recognise childhood BiPolar (BP) in Australia (my perception of this, that is) - we have an Aussie member on this site whose son really worries me, she's been trying to get some sort of understandable diagnosis and treatment for him and is really struggling, despite doing everything right. I am very angry with our health care system and our education system for its failure to help her. Very frustrating. PLus difficult child 3's friends at drama class - the range of problems is diverse, I suspect one young man with a diagnosis of Asperger's could have BiPolar (BP) as well - we see so many of them still not having a label that fits well, despite this group being more informed than most, more supported than most. We have a good health care system Down Under, but it does have its drawbacks. Diagnosis of bipolar, where it's screaming at you that it's more than Asperger's, is one area that bugs me. I know I'm critical of the article, MWM, but I do think it has its merit and the dscussion it promotes is DEFINITELY of value, we all need to be aware of the scope of problems in trying to pin down a diagnosis that fits. marg [/QUOTE]
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