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<blockquote data-quote="Mattsmom277" data-source="post: 488748" data-attributes="member: 4264"><p>Malika, many in Borg American celebrate a Christmas type holiday, separate from religious beliefs. For some with non Christian beliefs and even some atheists often celebrate during this season by having traditional meals, family gatherings, exchanging gifts and donating to charitable causes in the spirit of give without taking. Santa often is then a fun whimsical and magical wondrous thing for children and the shopping (admittedly over commercialized) is a by-product of the tradition in north America of a Santa.</p><p></p><p>For Christians those traditions are usually fairly similar for a party type angle but the religious aspect is both simultaneous and yet a separate reason for celebrating the spirit of the Christian holiday. For active Christians other activities also tend to occur. Special masses and ceremonies. Special prayer masses. Traditional midnight mass. Special hymns and prayers and tha holiday for many is also a way to reflect on the past year, reknew their commitment to God and pray for themselves and with gratitude but also pray for others and reach out to others who are struggling and could use help.</p><p></p><p>For those celebrating as a Christian event, having Santa and gifts does not rule out a very serious approach to the Christian meaning to the season. Much as in jewish faith a huge event with major signfigance is a bat mitzvah yet can also for some mean a costly lavish large party for the young person. The significance is not always lost simply due to a costly celebration.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad you and J are enjoying trying something new. I giggled with the update that he doesn't exist. Our kids can sure crack us up.</p><p></p><p>Back to the religious base vs commercial holiday traditions and gifts etc... I think it is sadly common for people to see the over the top commercial ads and shopping and believe there is no longer a important Christian celebration with meaning also happening. When I hear people who can no longer see themselves how many take this season very seriously and spiritually, I feel compelled to just insert a reminder that the fun trappings can and do often collide and doesn't need to finish the meaning of this time for faithful Christians. I hear this jaded view so much about Christians and the gift thing and never hear it about Jewish coming of age traditions nor would I want to as it would to me feel offensive to say. For those with strong faith I imagine many feel quite sad to have their important period of this season minimized in its importance.</p><p></p><p>In another fun note, I remember in shool Lear if if the various santa like world traditions such as Pere Noel. Google would make fun reading for your J. Its interesting and fun even for very young kids.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mattsmom277, post: 488748, member: 4264"] Malika, many in Borg American celebrate a Christmas type holiday, separate from religious beliefs. For some with non Christian beliefs and even some atheists often celebrate during this season by having traditional meals, family gatherings, exchanging gifts and donating to charitable causes in the spirit of give without taking. Santa often is then a fun whimsical and magical wondrous thing for children and the shopping (admittedly over commercialized) is a by-product of the tradition in north America of a Santa. For Christians those traditions are usually fairly similar for a party type angle but the religious aspect is both simultaneous and yet a separate reason for celebrating the spirit of the Christian holiday. For active Christians other activities also tend to occur. Special masses and ceremonies. Special prayer masses. Traditional midnight mass. Special hymns and prayers and tha holiday for many is also a way to reflect on the past year, reknew their commitment to God and pray for themselves and with gratitude but also pray for others and reach out to others who are struggling and could use help. For those celebrating as a Christian event, having Santa and gifts does not rule out a very serious approach to the Christian meaning to the season. Much as in jewish faith a huge event with major signfigance is a bat mitzvah yet can also for some mean a costly lavish large party for the young person. The significance is not always lost simply due to a costly celebration. I'm glad you and J are enjoying trying something new. I giggled with the update that he doesn't exist. Our kids can sure crack us up. Back to the religious base vs commercial holiday traditions and gifts etc... I think it is sadly common for people to see the over the top commercial ads and shopping and believe there is no longer a important Christian celebration with meaning also happening. When I hear people who can no longer see themselves how many take this season very seriously and spiritually, I feel compelled to just insert a reminder that the fun trappings can and do often collide and doesn't need to finish the meaning of this time for faithful Christians. I hear this jaded view so much about Christians and the gift thing and never hear it about Jewish coming of age traditions nor would I want to as it would to me feel offensive to say. For those with strong faith I imagine many feel quite sad to have their important period of this season minimized in its importance. In another fun note, I remember in shool Lear if if the various santa like world traditions such as Pere Noel. Google would make fun reading for your J. Its interesting and fun even for very young kids. [/QUOTE]
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