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<blockquote data-quote="TerryJ2" data-source="post: 296908" data-attributes="member: 3419"><p>Hi Byrd, welcome.</p><p>He sounds like my son! I had a rough day with-him today. He argued with-absolutely every single thing I said. I actually slammed on the brakes and pulled over at one point. Sigh.</p><p>I know what you mean about accepting the abnormality and thinking it's rough, but not a diagnosis.</p><p>But I agree with-gcvmom, that you need to have some testing done and uncover some rocks. ODD to me is an adjective, not a diagnosis. </p><p>I put my son through psycho-educational testing and it helped a lot, to show me how far advanced he was in current events, poltics and sociology, (5 gr levels ahead) and how far behind in math (K level, when he was in 3rd gr). He was faking his way through school in a big way.</p><p>It also explained how frustrated he was and part of the reason for his explosions.</p><p>But not all the reasons.</p><p> </p><p>Frankly, exploding every 3 days isn't that bad (keep in mind that we're talking about an ODD kid, not a regular kid!!!) My son exploded several times a day when he was a toddler, and once we got things under control, it was 5 X a wk, then 3X a wk, then once a wk. It took months (maybe yrs). And he still explodes (today was one of those days, but at least I knew the reason. I posted about it on a football thread.)</p><p> </p><p>Everything with-these kids is exaggerated and magnified. Not to say that absolutely nothing is legit, just that they overreact to situations. Sometimes it's due to what's going on in their minds. Sometimes it's a food allergy that is making them cranky.Sometimes it's an Learning Disability (LD) that is making them frustrated. Sometimes they're overstimulated by fluorescent lights or loud noises.</p><p>One thing I think most of our kids have in common is not being able to project the consequences of their behavior into the future. Or onto other people. Then they are either in total denial, or totally remorseful, and they don't "get" what happened. </p><p>As you noted, you discipline and discipline and discipline and they just don't get it.</p><p> </p><p>So we've all learned different approaches. </p><p> </p><p>Can you give some examples of what happened immediately b4 your son threw his recent fits? Did someone turn off the TV? Tell him to come for dinner? Take away a video game? Decide not to go to the grocery store, or decide at the last min to go to the store?</p><p> </p><p>Is there a diff between how he behaves at school and at home?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="TerryJ2, post: 296908, member: 3419"] Hi Byrd, welcome. He sounds like my son! I had a rough day with-him today. He argued with-absolutely every single thing I said. I actually slammed on the brakes and pulled over at one point. Sigh. I know what you mean about accepting the abnormality and thinking it's rough, but not a diagnosis. But I agree with-gcvmom, that you need to have some testing done and uncover some rocks. ODD to me is an adjective, not a diagnosis. I put my son through psycho-educational testing and it helped a lot, to show me how far advanced he was in current events, poltics and sociology, (5 gr levels ahead) and how far behind in math (K level, when he was in 3rd gr). He was faking his way through school in a big way. It also explained how frustrated he was and part of the reason for his explosions. But not all the reasons. Frankly, exploding every 3 days isn't that bad (keep in mind that we're talking about an ODD kid, not a regular kid!!!) My son exploded several times a day when he was a toddler, and once we got things under control, it was 5 X a wk, then 3X a wk, then once a wk. It took months (maybe yrs). And he still explodes (today was one of those days, but at least I knew the reason. I posted about it on a football thread.) Everything with-these kids is exaggerated and magnified. Not to say that absolutely nothing is legit, just that they overreact to situations. Sometimes it's due to what's going on in their minds. Sometimes it's a food allergy that is making them cranky.Sometimes it's an Learning Disability (LD) that is making them frustrated. Sometimes they're overstimulated by fluorescent lights or loud noises. One thing I think most of our kids have in common is not being able to project the consequences of their behavior into the future. Or onto other people. Then they are either in total denial, or totally remorseful, and they don't "get" what happened. As you noted, you discipline and discipline and discipline and they just don't get it. So we've all learned different approaches. Can you give some examples of what happened immediately b4 your son threw his recent fits? Did someone turn off the TV? Tell him to come for dinner? Take away a video game? Decide not to go to the grocery store, or decide at the last min to go to the store? Is there a diff between how he behaves at school and at home? [/QUOTE]
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