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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 296574" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>If the judge ordered appts with two different "doctors", here's my guess based on this happening with my son. One will be to see if he's competent to stand trial. This isn't a "competency determination" like they give an adult to see if the person is mentally competent, this is to see if he's old enough to understand the seriousness and legality of what he is accused of and/or if he understands enough about the judicial system to help in his own defense, again due to age. If found incompetent (too immature), here they put the kid thru a class/program to teach them, then the kid stands trial. Unless it's a really young kid who just did something stupid, then they drop the whole thing.</p><p></p><p>The other one probably is a mental health evaluation by a person who will review previous mental health records, talk to difficult child and husband. This is the chance to push for Residential Treatment Center (RTC) or whatever you'd like to see happen. Don't be surprised if you end up with difficult child home and the family getting an intensive in-home therapist or mst, though. This is the "going thing" before Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is approved anymore. We couldn't survive the 2 weeks waiting on ours to start up before we had another crisis so that ended that for us.</p><p></p><p>If the second one isn't a doctor, it could be dss to do a family assessment. That isn't the same as an investigation for a neglect or abuse accusation, but it is an interview and check by a trained dss worker to see if there is anything awry in the household that could be contributing. This could lead to anything from reporting to court that the household is fine, to making anyone in the family or the entire family do some kind of class or therapy, to removal of the child from the home- in which case they then will first try to place the child with another family member until you/husband or whomever does what they want. If you don't want difficult child put in dss but you want something done, you can make sure dss family assessor knows about the problems but let them know what you are advocating for.</p><p></p><p>I can't guarantee you that this is what was ordered, but this is exactly what my son went thru after his crime spree where he racked up 7 charges after having prozac doubled at 12 yo. Oh- when it's a felony charge, a juvenile is not allowed to go to trial without an attny here so if the parent doesn't hire one, they will assign a public defender and based on husband's salary, might use a sliding scale and bill him some. If the offense is for something a kid did against the parent (like stealing or hitting), they will assign a PD at no charge to the parent.</p><p></p><p>I think I posted on one of your threads before that I had been thru similar with my son and was terified of him being committed to state juvy (local detention was NOTHING plus it is short term- maybe 30 days max) and I advocated hard to get my son into a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) based on recommendations from tdocs/psychiatrists. It would have been best for my son, I think, but we couldn't get it. Anyway, my son is in state Department of Juvenile Justice now and even though it's still a bear trying to get everyone on the same page, this is showing more hope than anything we tried at home, so far, at getting people to the bottom of the problem. You know, as long as the kid is at home there are people who doubt the truthfulness of the parent.</p><p></p><p>I just read your post about the cps lady- you probably won't have an additional person from dss then. My guess about her "no comment" is because the PD is there to defend difficult child and cannot confide in cps - they will be advocating for different things in court. If you/husband plan to pay for Residential Treatment Center (RTC), you can tell the PD and asked them to try to wiork out an agreement with the prosecuting attny. If you want the courts to order/pay for Residential Treatment Center (RTC), you might better have husband call and talk to PD and see if the PD will advocate for this- husband can tell PD about the history.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 296574, member: 3699"] If the judge ordered appts with two different "doctors", here's my guess based on this happening with my son. One will be to see if he's competent to stand trial. This isn't a "competency determination" like they give an adult to see if the person is mentally competent, this is to see if he's old enough to understand the seriousness and legality of what he is accused of and/or if he understands enough about the judicial system to help in his own defense, again due to age. If found incompetent (too immature), here they put the kid thru a class/program to teach them, then the kid stands trial. Unless it's a really young kid who just did something stupid, then they drop the whole thing. The other one probably is a mental health evaluation by a person who will review previous mental health records, talk to difficult child and husband. This is the chance to push for Residential Treatment Center (RTC) or whatever you'd like to see happen. Don't be surprised if you end up with difficult child home and the family getting an intensive in-home therapist or mst, though. This is the "going thing" before Residential Treatment Center (RTC) is approved anymore. We couldn't survive the 2 weeks waiting on ours to start up before we had another crisis so that ended that for us. If the second one isn't a doctor, it could be dss to do a family assessment. That isn't the same as an investigation for a neglect or abuse accusation, but it is an interview and check by a trained dss worker to see if there is anything awry in the household that could be contributing. This could lead to anything from reporting to court that the household is fine, to making anyone in the family or the entire family do some kind of class or therapy, to removal of the child from the home- in which case they then will first try to place the child with another family member until you/husband or whomever does what they want. If you don't want difficult child put in dss but you want something done, you can make sure dss family assessor knows about the problems but let them know what you are advocating for. I can't guarantee you that this is what was ordered, but this is exactly what my son went thru after his crime spree where he racked up 7 charges after having prozac doubled at 12 yo. Oh- when it's a felony charge, a juvenile is not allowed to go to trial without an attny here so if the parent doesn't hire one, they will assign a public defender and based on husband's salary, might use a sliding scale and bill him some. If the offense is for something a kid did against the parent (like stealing or hitting), they will assign a PD at no charge to the parent. I think I posted on one of your threads before that I had been thru similar with my son and was terified of him being committed to state juvy (local detention was NOTHING plus it is short term- maybe 30 days max) and I advocated hard to get my son into a psychiatric Residential Treatment Center (RTC) based on recommendations from tdocs/psychiatrists. It would have been best for my son, I think, but we couldn't get it. Anyway, my son is in state Department of Juvenile Justice now and even though it's still a bear trying to get everyone on the same page, this is showing more hope than anything we tried at home, so far, at getting people to the bottom of the problem. You know, as long as the kid is at home there are people who doubt the truthfulness of the parent. I just read your post about the cps lady- you probably won't have an additional person from dss then. My guess about her "no comment" is because the PD is there to defend difficult child and cannot confide in cps - they will be advocating for different things in court. If you/husband plan to pay for Residential Treatment Center (RTC), you can tell the PD and asked them to try to wiork out an agreement with the prosecuting attny. If you want the courts to order/pay for Residential Treatment Center (RTC), you might better have husband call and talk to PD and see if the PD will advocate for this- husband can tell PD about the history. [/QUOTE]
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