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<blockquote data-quote="lovemysons" data-source="post: 236439" data-attributes="member: 3305"><p>Hi there...</p><p>Just looked up a definition of the word "disease" and got...</p><p>"a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment."</p><p></p><p>Over and over again in the Big Book of AA it states that the alcoholic is a "very sick person"... "</p><p>"in a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body."</p><p>"One symptom in common: they cannot start drinking without develping the phenomenon of craving." </p><p>and on pg 23..."the main problem of the alcoholic centers in his mind, rather than in his body. </p><p>"We are equally positive that once he takes any alcohol whatever into his system, something happens, both in the bodily and mental sense, which makes it virtually impossible for him to stop." thats from page 22 of the Big Book. </p><p>and page 30...</p><p>"The delusion that we are like other people, or prsently may be has to be smashed." </p><p>"alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better." </p><p>and page 85...</p><p>"We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition." </p><p></p><p></p><p>Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that I believe AA suggests alcoholism IS a form of mental illness but that there is a solution...a daily solution that centers around our "spiritual condition". </p><p>AA also states that unless this person can experience an entire psychic change there is very little hope of his recovery." ..."something more than human power is needed to produce the essential psychic change." </p><p>"moral inventory, confession of personality defects, restituation to those harmed, helpfulness to others, and the necessity of belief in a dependence upon God." </p><p></p><p>Anyway, AA is a design for daily living, living in sobriety, with sober thinking and help from others.in my humble opinion. </p><p>I think alot of rehabs are dual diagnosis because they recognise the fact that the mind of an addict/alcoholic is mentally ill to begin with...a that medication for some of their other issues may give one a more stable mind in which to think and implement what they learn from AA about a daily reprieve. </p><p></p><p>I think AA is extremely helpful both to the alcholic and the family's of alcoholics. I am on both sides though it has been about a year or so since my last meeting. </p><p></p><p>I hope some of what I shared helps in understanding that this in my humble opinion is a "diseased mind" we're talking about...not a normal one. </p><p></p><p>Tammy</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lovemysons, post: 236439, member: 3305"] Hi there... Just looked up a definition of the word "disease" and got... "a disordered or incorrectly functioning organ, part, structure, or system of the body resulting from the effect of genetic or developmental errors, infection, poisons, nutritional deficiency or imbalance, toxicity, or unfavorable environmental factors; illness; sickness; ailment." Over and over again in the Big Book of AA it states that the alcoholic is a "very sick person"... " "in a seemingly hopeless state of mind and body." "One symptom in common: they cannot start drinking without develping the phenomenon of craving." and on pg 23..."the main problem of the alcoholic centers in his mind, rather than in his body. "We are equally positive that once he takes any alcohol whatever into his system, something happens, both in the bodily and mental sense, which makes it virtually impossible for him to stop." thats from page 22 of the Big Book. and page 30... "The delusion that we are like other people, or prsently may be has to be smashed." "alcoholics of our type are in the grip of a progressive illness. Over any considerable period we get worse, never better." and page 85... "We are not cured of alcoholism. What we really have is a daily reprieve contingent on the maintenance of our spiritual condition." Anyway, I guess what I'm saying is that I believe AA suggests alcoholism IS a form of mental illness but that there is a solution...a daily solution that centers around our "spiritual condition". AA also states that unless this person can experience an entire psychic change there is very little hope of his recovery." ..."something more than human power is needed to produce the essential psychic change." "moral inventory, confession of personality defects, restituation to those harmed, helpfulness to others, and the necessity of belief in a dependence upon God." Anyway, AA is a design for daily living, living in sobriety, with sober thinking and help from others.in my humble opinion. I think alot of rehabs are dual diagnosis because they recognise the fact that the mind of an addict/alcoholic is mentally ill to begin with...a that medication for some of their other issues may give one a more stable mind in which to think and implement what they learn from AA about a daily reprieve. I think AA is extremely helpful both to the alcholic and the family's of alcoholics. I am on both sides though it has been about a year or so since my last meeting. I hope some of what I shared helps in understanding that this in my humble opinion is a "diseased mind" we're talking about...not a normal one. Tammy [/QUOTE]
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