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<blockquote data-quote="hearts and roses" data-source="post: 118216" data-attributes="member: 2211"><p>I think our school says it and everyone must at least stand up while it's being said over the intercom, but they do not have to say the words. At least that's how it was 3 years ago in our HS.</p><p></p><p>I understand your point about separation of church and state, etc., but IMVHO, I think that if you live in this country and you take advantage of all its liberties, it's not going to kill anyone to say the pledge of allegiance. </p><p></p><p>As to the inclusion of God, we all have our own Gods. The word "God" is just another word. What it means to each individual is all that matters and how it pertains to their personal beliefs & living in the USA is their own business.</p><p></p><p>If the school called me to tell me my kid couldn't go to recess because he/she didn't say the pledge, I'd make a stink because we are a free country...free to NOT say the pledge, in my opinion, so yeah, I'd argue that one.</p><p></p><p>BUT, between my kid and me, I'd encourage them to do a little research about what the Pledge of Allegiance meant to our Original Americans, in particular those who named it our country's pledge and why. Then I would encourage them to make the connection between its origin and the present world in which we live and how it effects their life in America. Then, if they STILL didn't want to say it, I would back them up. </p><p></p><p>My hope, however, would be that they would take pride in the ORIGINAL meanings and intentions of the pledge of allegiance and join in based on how their feelings fit in with their beliefs after they've done their research. </p><p></p><p>on the other hand, I personally feel that our current leaders have become very clouded on what it means to be an American and I personally would not pledge my allegiance in agreement to what <em>they</em> believe the Pledge means. I am not an anti-government person or an athiest, etc., but I think if you're going to be pledging your allegiance to anything, you should have a clear understanding of what you're pledging allegiance to and only if you agree with it. I think a majority of schools just present it as something they have to do every morning, but never give the students a clean understanding of the meaning.</p><p></p><p>That's my 2¢...stepping off soapbox. :soapbox:</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hearts and roses, post: 118216, member: 2211"] I think our school says it and everyone must at least stand up while it's being said over the intercom, but they do not have to say the words. At least that's how it was 3 years ago in our HS. I understand your point about separation of church and state, etc., but IMVHO, I think that if you live in this country and you take advantage of all its liberties, it's not going to kill anyone to say the pledge of allegiance. As to the inclusion of God, we all have our own Gods. The word "God" is just another word. What it means to each individual is all that matters and how it pertains to their personal beliefs & living in the USA is their own business. If the school called me to tell me my kid couldn't go to recess because he/she didn't say the pledge, I'd make a stink because we are a free country...free to NOT say the pledge, in my opinion, so yeah, I'd argue that one. BUT, between my kid and me, I'd encourage them to do a little research about what the Pledge of Allegiance meant to our Original Americans, in particular those who named it our country's pledge and why. Then I would encourage them to make the connection between its origin and the present world in which we live and how it effects their life in America. Then, if they STILL didn't want to say it, I would back them up. My hope, however, would be that they would take pride in the ORIGINAL meanings and intentions of the pledge of allegiance and join in based on how their feelings fit in with their beliefs after they've done their research. on the other hand, I personally feel that our current leaders have become very clouded on what it means to be an American and I personally would not pledge my allegiance in agreement to what [i]they[/i] believe the Pledge means. I am not an anti-government person or an athiest, etc., but I think if you're going to be pledging your allegiance to anything, you should have a clear understanding of what you're pledging allegiance to and only if you agree with it. I think a majority of schools just present it as something they have to do every morning, but never give the students a clean understanding of the meaning. That's my 2¢...stepping off soapbox. [img]:soapbox:[/img] [/QUOTE]
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