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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 107849" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>HI Toto - </p><p></p><p>Hmmm, I'm not sure. I do not have much experience with BiPolar (BP) kids. I DO know that we have been told from 3 different pscyhologists regarding Dude over the years that he IS ADHD, PTSD, CD and they are watching him for emerging signs of BiPolar (BP) / Aspergers / and Psychopathic tendencies. </p><p></p><p>The first time I put difficult child in a psychiatric hospital we had NO diagnosis. They kept him for a month ONLY because when he was brought it it was because he had totally trashed a pediatric waiting area, cursed a cop for handcuffing him to a bed, and then taking him TO the hospital in the back of a K-9 unit van. He had messed his pants, was screaming at staff at intake and then an hour later was pouting but fine. Three days later the nurses looked at me like I was crazy or just needed a single mom break for brining him there - he was THAT good. He was so out of control the day I took him there he took a grain scyth after a neighbor boy and meant to kill him. Had he caught him - I'm sure he would have taken his anger out on him. </p><p></p><p>Every Residential Treatment Center (RTC) that difficult child has been in - he honeymoons to the point where they call us (parents) in and start with the usual questions, as if. When a doctor suggested he was BiPolar (BP) they tried him on Topomax. It did NOTHING for him at all, and made him puffy and he gained weight quickly. He even told the psychiatric doctor a month later "I already have enough problems doctor, I don't want to be fat on top of it - he was 10." The doctor chuckled and took him off and put him on something else (can't think of what) but it too was a BiPolar (BP) medicine. Finally after 18 months there - they told me they just couldn't control him, he was angry and out of control with no rhyme or reason. But sometimes he could really hold it together. </p><p></p><p>Lastly and latest - our psychiatrist told us he could be an emerging psychopath, BUT there are SO many factors to consider and so many crossover diagnosis's. ANd he's holding out with the belief that Dude CAN control all his behaviors - he chooses not to. THAT is more exasperating than if he did have a diagnosis, because at least then I would say "HE does this because he's mentally ill." Our psychiatrist thinks he's emotionally ill and behaviorally ill only. He has the coping skills to do well for himself and still chooses not to. </p><p></p><p> Do you have access to a local college medical lab? Can you find out from the professor there WHO in your area is the GO TO person for BiPolar (BP) disorders? Can you maybe video tape her when she's in an out of sync mode and keep a diary? If nothing else it would be helpful for the next doctor she sees. </p><p></p><p>But as far as your original question - can children honeymoon? Sure. I was beyond depressed a couple of weeks ago and really could not have faked it had I wanted to - even my boss said I was "mopey" - I lost my spark and just couldn't get my fuse lit. But could I fake a smile or a tone of voice to answer the phone? Sure. </p><p></p><p>I used to know a man with BiPolar (BP) who was more manic than anything. In HIS state of depression he could not function - he couldn't fake it, he could not make you think he was okay - he was out of it and sad. HE had other health problems, diabetes, gout etc - that may have helped him feel poorly - but he was in his 60's we're talking about a child...I think kids could fake it or maybe learn to not hyperfocus on being depressed - ESPECIALLY in a new environment. Leave her there for a month or two and let true colors emerge - her behaviors are NOT just ADHD and willful child. </p><p></p><p>Hope you find out what is going on and soon. </p><p></p><p>Many hugs</p><p>(wishing I was ON a honeymoon) lol</p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 107849, member: 4964"] HI Toto - Hmmm, I'm not sure. I do not have much experience with BiPolar (BP) kids. I DO know that we have been told from 3 different pscyhologists regarding Dude over the years that he IS ADHD, PTSD, CD and they are watching him for emerging signs of BiPolar (BP) / Aspergers / and Psychopathic tendencies. The first time I put difficult child in a psychiatric hospital we had NO diagnosis. They kept him for a month ONLY because when he was brought it it was because he had totally trashed a pediatric waiting area, cursed a cop for handcuffing him to a bed, and then taking him TO the hospital in the back of a K-9 unit van. He had messed his pants, was screaming at staff at intake and then an hour later was pouting but fine. Three days later the nurses looked at me like I was crazy or just needed a single mom break for brining him there - he was THAT good. He was so out of control the day I took him there he took a grain scyth after a neighbor boy and meant to kill him. Had he caught him - I'm sure he would have taken his anger out on him. Every Residential Treatment Center (RTC) that difficult child has been in - he honeymoons to the point where they call us (parents) in and start with the usual questions, as if. When a doctor suggested he was BiPolar (BP) they tried him on Topomax. It did NOTHING for him at all, and made him puffy and he gained weight quickly. He even told the psychiatric doctor a month later "I already have enough problems doctor, I don't want to be fat on top of it - he was 10." The doctor chuckled and took him off and put him on something else (can't think of what) but it too was a BiPolar (BP) medicine. Finally after 18 months there - they told me they just couldn't control him, he was angry and out of control with no rhyme or reason. But sometimes he could really hold it together. Lastly and latest - our psychiatrist told us he could be an emerging psychopath, BUT there are SO many factors to consider and so many crossover diagnosis's. ANd he's holding out with the belief that Dude CAN control all his behaviors - he chooses not to. THAT is more exasperating than if he did have a diagnosis, because at least then I would say "HE does this because he's mentally ill." Our psychiatrist thinks he's emotionally ill and behaviorally ill only. He has the coping skills to do well for himself and still chooses not to. Do you have access to a local college medical lab? Can you find out from the professor there WHO in your area is the GO TO person for BiPolar (BP) disorders? Can you maybe video tape her when she's in an out of sync mode and keep a diary? If nothing else it would be helpful for the next doctor she sees. But as far as your original question - can children honeymoon? Sure. I was beyond depressed a couple of weeks ago and really could not have faked it had I wanted to - even my boss said I was "mopey" - I lost my spark and just couldn't get my fuse lit. But could I fake a smile or a tone of voice to answer the phone? Sure. I used to know a man with BiPolar (BP) who was more manic than anything. In HIS state of depression he could not function - he couldn't fake it, he could not make you think he was okay - he was out of it and sad. HE had other health problems, diabetes, gout etc - that may have helped him feel poorly - but he was in his 60's we're talking about a child...I think kids could fake it or maybe learn to not hyperfocus on being depressed - ESPECIALLY in a new environment. Leave her there for a month or two and let true colors emerge - her behaviors are NOT just ADHD and willful child. Hope you find out what is going on and soon. Many hugs (wishing I was ON a honeymoon) lol Star [/QUOTE]
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