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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 499366" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>If they used the ADOS test then why did you not get results from it? Just being aware and using it "informally" is NOT a valid test in any way, shape, or form. I think you will see more autism related issues as he gets older but with the very low receptive language that may be a false impression on my part. </p><p></p><p>Did they give you the actual results or just a verbal or written overall report? These tests give a LOT of info but if you don't get the actual scores for the subsets you don't get ANY. On a couple of tests the overall reports showed Wiz has NO problems but when forced to give me the actual results instead of just the report that said he was fine, he was sky high on a few areas and that pulled his rock bottom scores on other areas up to "normal" levels. If I hadn't pushed for those actual scores and gotten someone to help me figure out what was the normal range and what Wiz' scores on each section meant, we could have gone his whole educational life wondering why he didn't work up to potential and thinking he just caused trouble because he wanted to rather than because he needed help.</p><p></p><p>Get some real, in depth speech language and auditory testing done. I would suggest calling around and asking at a university if there is one around that has these programs. Sometimes you can get help through them. Also consult a chldren's hospital if there is one nearby. let school do the testng they can, but don't depend on them. They look for problems that will affect school not his entire life and they also have a vested interest in finding no problems. I know most speech therapists would rather help a child than worry about budgets, but there are schools that pressure them to not identify problems because that is expensive.</p><p></p><p>I am just curious why, if his scores didn't show problems or anything significant on the ADOS and other autism tests, the doctor didn't give you the results? Just telling you he wouldn't have any significant results is bogus. One of the first things taught in the classes on how to give these tests is that if you go in expecting a response you will find it and if you just do part of the test then none of the results are valid - you must do all or nothing. So just "knowing" that V won't score anything significant is bogus - you simply cannot do that and have ANY degree of statistical reliability. With no statistical reliability the results mean nothing. You either do it right or you go home and don't do it. I hate when doctors pull koi like that. They hate doing it on me because I have been known to debate the statistical accuracy and bias in their testing methods with them (waaaayyyy too many stat classes, lol)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 499366, member: 1233"] If they used the ADOS test then why did you not get results from it? Just being aware and using it "informally" is NOT a valid test in any way, shape, or form. I think you will see more autism related issues as he gets older but with the very low receptive language that may be a false impression on my part. Did they give you the actual results or just a verbal or written overall report? These tests give a LOT of info but if you don't get the actual scores for the subsets you don't get ANY. On a couple of tests the overall reports showed Wiz has NO problems but when forced to give me the actual results instead of just the report that said he was fine, he was sky high on a few areas and that pulled his rock bottom scores on other areas up to "normal" levels. If I hadn't pushed for those actual scores and gotten someone to help me figure out what was the normal range and what Wiz' scores on each section meant, we could have gone his whole educational life wondering why he didn't work up to potential and thinking he just caused trouble because he wanted to rather than because he needed help. Get some real, in depth speech language and auditory testing done. I would suggest calling around and asking at a university if there is one around that has these programs. Sometimes you can get help through them. Also consult a chldren's hospital if there is one nearby. let school do the testng they can, but don't depend on them. They look for problems that will affect school not his entire life and they also have a vested interest in finding no problems. I know most speech therapists would rather help a child than worry about budgets, but there are schools that pressure them to not identify problems because that is expensive. I am just curious why, if his scores didn't show problems or anything significant on the ADOS and other autism tests, the doctor didn't give you the results? Just telling you he wouldn't have any significant results is bogus. One of the first things taught in the classes on how to give these tests is that if you go in expecting a response you will find it and if you just do part of the test then none of the results are valid - you must do all or nothing. So just "knowing" that V won't score anything significant is bogus - you simply cannot do that and have ANY degree of statistical reliability. With no statistical reliability the results mean nothing. You either do it right or you go home and don't do it. I hate when doctors pull koi like that. They hate doing it on me because I have been known to debate the statistical accuracy and bias in their testing methods with them (waaaayyyy too many stat classes, lol) [/QUOTE]
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