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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 734425" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Sorry. Pink. A proper hiding is abuse and in today's world you are lucky if your kid doesn't hide you back and you get into trouble for putting marks on your child first. And I agree with that. Nobody should pull down a child's pants and beat them with a brush or belt so that the kids can't sit down. If you beat your teen I feel it is justified if he fights back in self defense. </p><p></p><p>Kids survive a lot of abuse including being beaten or sexually abused. But it can cause major problems even if they survive it.</p><p></p><p>Also, where I lived as a child most kids didn't run around unsupervised. Not even forty years ago. Nor were the parents like second mothers to all. Nor were kids allowed to run from one yard to the next. As always, every section of the world is different. Just like our area was finished with cloth diapers when my son was born, even though I am ten years older than you are. And just like as a child, smokers, and 80 percent did not smoke...maybe 50 percent, were not sloppy smokers. People owned beautiful expensive homes and did not dump cigatrette ashes on their expensive carpets and floors and furniture...ashtrays only. And many quit smoking once the dangers became news. My Dad and Grandma quit. Nobody else in my family smoked, even forty years ago. Not everyone did here.</p><p></p><p>The socioecomic and academic flavor of each neighborhood played a part and still does. The wealthy never lived like the rural working class,where I live today. Two different cultures/worlds. If you own a house that is worth half a million you are careful of your home and landscaped yard. So it's going to be and is different.</p><p></p><p>I just heard Goneboy is building a house in Northbrook IL. It figures as his self esteem comes from what he owns and he is a millionaire. Northbrook IL is the elite of the Chicago suburbs and you better believe little kids don't run around their yards. The main goal for kids there is to EXCEL in school and go to college. Way different than the laid back atmosphere here in semi rural Wisconsin where the kids fish, hunt, bike ride and can survive at home even if they don't get straight A's. There are inconsiderate smokers here who throw butts all over. But we don't hang with smokers so it doesn't affect us. When I worked at Applebee's though I had to put on rubber gloves and clean up the icky butts tossed in the parking lot. Not a fun job. When people are more middle class they are not as prideful of the neighborhood's appearance. I love it here but there are some things I wish were different. This is a nice area and I wish the people pampered it more.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 734425, member: 1550"] Sorry. Pink. A proper hiding is abuse and in today's world you are lucky if your kid doesn't hide you back and you get into trouble for putting marks on your child first. And I agree with that. Nobody should pull down a child's pants and beat them with a brush or belt so that the kids can't sit down. If you beat your teen I feel it is justified if he fights back in self defense. Kids survive a lot of abuse including being beaten or sexually abused. But it can cause major problems even if they survive it. Also, where I lived as a child most kids didn't run around unsupervised. Not even forty years ago. Nor were the parents like second mothers to all. Nor were kids allowed to run from one yard to the next. As always, every section of the world is different. Just like our area was finished with cloth diapers when my son was born, even though I am ten years older than you are. And just like as a child, smokers, and 80 percent did not smoke...maybe 50 percent, were not sloppy smokers. People owned beautiful expensive homes and did not dump cigatrette ashes on their expensive carpets and floors and furniture...ashtrays only. And many quit smoking once the dangers became news. My Dad and Grandma quit. Nobody else in my family smoked, even forty years ago. Not everyone did here. The socioecomic and academic flavor of each neighborhood played a part and still does. The wealthy never lived like the rural working class,where I live today. Two different cultures/worlds. If you own a house that is worth half a million you are careful of your home and landscaped yard. So it's going to be and is different. I just heard Goneboy is building a house in Northbrook IL. It figures as his self esteem comes from what he owns and he is a millionaire. Northbrook IL is the elite of the Chicago suburbs and you better believe little kids don't run around their yards. The main goal for kids there is to EXCEL in school and go to college. Way different than the laid back atmosphere here in semi rural Wisconsin where the kids fish, hunt, bike ride and can survive at home even if they don't get straight A's. There are inconsiderate smokers here who throw butts all over. But we don't hang with smokers so it doesn't affect us. When I worked at Applebee's though I had to put on rubber gloves and clean up the icky butts tossed in the parking lot. Not a fun job. When people are more middle class they are not as prideful of the neighborhood's appearance. I love it here but there are some things I wish were different. This is a nice area and I wish the people pampered it more. [/QUOTE]
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