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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 588753" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Religion is such an individual thing to me. I don't really believe in organized religion. I was brought up Catholic and went to a Catholic school for grades 1-6. My folks let us choose after age 12/end of sixth grade if we wanted to attend church or not. I saw so very many things done by the nuns and priests that was completely against what the religion and bible both say. It really soured me on organized religion. After we moved to OK I went to several different churches with friends. A few seemed far more like cults, esp on their youth weekend retreats where you were kept up late, woken early, only given sweets and carbs to eat/drink, etc.... There were a LOT of things that are pretty standard brainwashing techniques that happened on these retreats. I usually ended up promising to do all I could to give these friends reasons to pray for me. Very few realized that I was NOT saying I agreed with their beliefs, and it got them to stop yammering at me about religion. I never said bad things about any religion, it just wasn't a good fit for me. </p><p></p><p>My kids have the option of attending any church they want within reason. I won't drive for hours to take them Occupational Therapist (OT) a church, it cannot be ust for the social aspects, etc.... But I don't attend services and husband does. He is Catholic by choice and had a completely different experience with the church than I did. For a few years the kids all went to an Episcopal church, and that was fine. husband often went to Mass at the Cath church here and then to bible study at the Episcopal church whle the kids went to bible study. Mostly now he and thank you go to Mass on Sunday, though thank you is skipping it more lately. We gave them a foundation in the basics of several religions, and provided info/experiences with any religion they were/are curious about. </p><p></p><p>Wiz has totally refused anythign to do with religion, mostly in my opinion because it used to upset husband. He has actually told many people that we had him exorcised. He also tells people that the holy water burned when he was baptized and he had a scar from where ti burned him that we had fixed by a plastic surgeon. husband saw this on his fb page and said that he didn't remember it that way. Reality is that he LOVED water and cooed when the water was put on his forehead. The priest actually poured it on his head 2 more times because Wiz was enjoying it so much. Wiz' fb friends sure latched on to that one and teased him a bit. It was maybe 2 yrs ago, when he was 19, and we found it very funny to hear all his stories. Several of his friends posted questions about other koi he told them about how God rejected him, blah blah blah. IT was truly funny because Wiz did NOT expect husband to challenge him in any way over it. </p><p></p><p>Wiz posts a LOT of that nonsense to get people to react emotionally. When husband didn't, and refuted his tall tales, Wiz was totally shocked. He had said that koi so often he started to believe it. Knowing there was video of his baptism, well, that put holes in his sails. </p><p></p><p>Most of my Catholic school classmates turned away from the church until there late 20's to early 40's and then came back around the time they stopped partying and had to be responsible for their children.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 588753, member: 1233"] Religion is such an individual thing to me. I don't really believe in organized religion. I was brought up Catholic and went to a Catholic school for grades 1-6. My folks let us choose after age 12/end of sixth grade if we wanted to attend church or not. I saw so very many things done by the nuns and priests that was completely against what the religion and bible both say. It really soured me on organized religion. After we moved to OK I went to several different churches with friends. A few seemed far more like cults, esp on their youth weekend retreats where you were kept up late, woken early, only given sweets and carbs to eat/drink, etc.... There were a LOT of things that are pretty standard brainwashing techniques that happened on these retreats. I usually ended up promising to do all I could to give these friends reasons to pray for me. Very few realized that I was NOT saying I agreed with their beliefs, and it got them to stop yammering at me about religion. I never said bad things about any religion, it just wasn't a good fit for me. My kids have the option of attending any church they want within reason. I won't drive for hours to take them Occupational Therapist (OT) a church, it cannot be ust for the social aspects, etc.... But I don't attend services and husband does. He is Catholic by choice and had a completely different experience with the church than I did. For a few years the kids all went to an Episcopal church, and that was fine. husband often went to Mass at the Cath church here and then to bible study at the Episcopal church whle the kids went to bible study. Mostly now he and thank you go to Mass on Sunday, though thank you is skipping it more lately. We gave them a foundation in the basics of several religions, and provided info/experiences with any religion they were/are curious about. Wiz has totally refused anythign to do with religion, mostly in my opinion because it used to upset husband. He has actually told many people that we had him exorcised. He also tells people that the holy water burned when he was baptized and he had a scar from where ti burned him that we had fixed by a plastic surgeon. husband saw this on his fb page and said that he didn't remember it that way. Reality is that he LOVED water and cooed when the water was put on his forehead. The priest actually poured it on his head 2 more times because Wiz was enjoying it so much. Wiz' fb friends sure latched on to that one and teased him a bit. It was maybe 2 yrs ago, when he was 19, and we found it very funny to hear all his stories. Several of his friends posted questions about other koi he told them about how God rejected him, blah blah blah. IT was truly funny because Wiz did NOT expect husband to challenge him in any way over it. Wiz posts a LOT of that nonsense to get people to react emotionally. When husband didn't, and refuted his tall tales, Wiz was totally shocked. He had said that koi so often he started to believe it. Knowing there was video of his baptism, well, that put holes in his sails. Most of my Catholic school classmates turned away from the church until there late 20's to early 40's and then came back around the time they stopped partying and had to be responsible for their children. [/QUOTE]
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