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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 112724" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>WFEN, you said, " If I tell difficult child 2 that I'm busy and don't have time to listen to what he is saying as he has already told me the same thing a zillion times, he'll continue to talk out loud even after I've left him. He'll continue to talk to himself until he has finished every last word of what he wanted to say."</p><p></p><p>Yes, that is definitely familiar. It's not an audience they need (although easy child 2/difficult child 2 will throw a tantrum if she feels she hasn't had a fair hearing) but the need to finish uttering the sentence, once begun. husband will often begin to talk and walk away, still talking. These days he often is simply voicing his thoughts and knows it's not intended for anybody in particular, but it can be frustrating when he thinks he's told me something, and I simply didn't hear it because it was voiced at a mutter from several rooms away.</p><p></p><p>My biggest concern is the breaks in uttering a sentence where he goes back to the beginning. It's been a problem for husband as long as I've known him; friends know to not try to help him. It only makes the problem worse. For difficult child 3 it really is interfering with his communication quite badly. It also is perhaps the biggest reason why he cannot progress as a piano player, despite his astounding musical aptitude. So this problem goes beyond verbal communication. SRL, it is the piano playing as well that makes me think this is more than just language processing, although what you describe does sound very similar. Also, I don't dare 'help' - I'd get my head bitten off. All I can do is wait until he gets the sentence out. I do wonder if any of them even realise how bad the problem is - I think husband does, but the kids just don't seem to notice that nobody else does this. For them, it's normal. With easy child 2/difficult child 2, a lot of her problem (much milder) could be simply put down to her known word retrieval problem.</p><p></p><p>We all have trouble finding a word sometimes. easy child 2/difficult child 2 has big trouble with word-finding (and accepts this) but most people will substitute "um" and "ah" (or similar) as a means to keep the vocal output fluent. As a child I remember being nagged to not say "um" and "ah", but to make sure I had my thoughts straight in my head before I spoke. But difficult child 3 never had this, so I don't think this is husband's response to the same sort of early education I had. Plus, his father used to do this too. He spoke slowly, almost cautiously. And if he was interrupted, he could get very irritable and would sometimes refuse to continue the conversation. He was a lovely man, this seemed almost out of character for him. husband & difficult child 3 are both very like him in many ways.</p><p></p><p>SSRIs - husband & difficult child 3 can't cope with them. difficult child 1 can, but surprisingly doesn't seem to have this problem. Neither does easy child. Not in the slightest.</p><p></p><p>So in our family, the problem is either there in a big way, or totally absent.</p><p></p><p>We do have close contact with a good Speech Pathologist but although she is a good friend and darn good at what she does, I can never pin her down to do a job for us, or give us a report. I also can't pin her down to give us an account, either, so at least she's not costing us money for nothing. I'd like to see if a good Speech Pathologist could sort this out for us, but the last time I saw someone (other than my friend) with the kids, I got absolutely nothing useful (it was for difficult child 1 - he does have some issues with written communication). So I'm reluctant to just pick up the phone book and ring around local therapists. What I need is some pointer as to who we can see, what therapies we can put in place; and for that, we also need - what the H do you call this?</p><p></p><p>It sounds like we're definitely not alone with this. So anything we learn will definitely be of use to other people on this board.</p><p></p><p>Please keep your thinking caps on, and thanks so much for the feedback so far.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 112724, member: 1991"] WFEN, you said, " If I tell difficult child 2 that I'm busy and don't have time to listen to what he is saying as he has already told me the same thing a zillion times, he'll continue to talk out loud even after I've left him. He'll continue to talk to himself until he has finished every last word of what he wanted to say." Yes, that is definitely familiar. It's not an audience they need (although easy child 2/difficult child 2 will throw a tantrum if she feels she hasn't had a fair hearing) but the need to finish uttering the sentence, once begun. husband will often begin to talk and walk away, still talking. These days he often is simply voicing his thoughts and knows it's not intended for anybody in particular, but it can be frustrating when he thinks he's told me something, and I simply didn't hear it because it was voiced at a mutter from several rooms away. My biggest concern is the breaks in uttering a sentence where he goes back to the beginning. It's been a problem for husband as long as I've known him; friends know to not try to help him. It only makes the problem worse. For difficult child 3 it really is interfering with his communication quite badly. It also is perhaps the biggest reason why he cannot progress as a piano player, despite his astounding musical aptitude. So this problem goes beyond verbal communication. SRL, it is the piano playing as well that makes me think this is more than just language processing, although what you describe does sound very similar. Also, I don't dare 'help' - I'd get my head bitten off. All I can do is wait until he gets the sentence out. I do wonder if any of them even realise how bad the problem is - I think husband does, but the kids just don't seem to notice that nobody else does this. For them, it's normal. With easy child 2/difficult child 2, a lot of her problem (much milder) could be simply put down to her known word retrieval problem. We all have trouble finding a word sometimes. easy child 2/difficult child 2 has big trouble with word-finding (and accepts this) but most people will substitute "um" and "ah" (or similar) as a means to keep the vocal output fluent. As a child I remember being nagged to not say "um" and "ah", but to make sure I had my thoughts straight in my head before I spoke. But difficult child 3 never had this, so I don't think this is husband's response to the same sort of early education I had. Plus, his father used to do this too. He spoke slowly, almost cautiously. And if he was interrupted, he could get very irritable and would sometimes refuse to continue the conversation. He was a lovely man, this seemed almost out of character for him. husband & difficult child 3 are both very like him in many ways. SSRIs - husband & difficult child 3 can't cope with them. difficult child 1 can, but surprisingly doesn't seem to have this problem. Neither does easy child. Not in the slightest. So in our family, the problem is either there in a big way, or totally absent. We do have close contact with a good Speech Pathologist but although she is a good friend and darn good at what she does, I can never pin her down to do a job for us, or give us a report. I also can't pin her down to give us an account, either, so at least she's not costing us money for nothing. I'd like to see if a good Speech Pathologist could sort this out for us, but the last time I saw someone (other than my friend) with the kids, I got absolutely nothing useful (it was for difficult child 1 - he does have some issues with written communication). So I'm reluctant to just pick up the phone book and ring around local therapists. What I need is some pointer as to who we can see, what therapies we can put in place; and for that, we also need - what the H do you call this? It sounds like we're definitely not alone with this. So anything we learn will definitely be of use to other people on this board. Please keep your thinking caps on, and thanks so much for the feedback so far. Marg [/QUOTE]
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