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Kay was a baby when I first tried to get her help....13. She would not even say a word to a therapist so they told us (several) that they can't help. One tried to get her to talk for a year. She wouldn't play games with him or ever talk to him. She is in her 30s now and never got help. Truly, it is up to them. I wish you love and.prayers and hope your son realizes that he can not do this on his own....and is not as stubborn as Kay.