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He's been kicked out of the shelter
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<blockquote data-quote="Lil" data-source="post: 643978" data-attributes="member: 17309"><p>Actually, we've <em>never</em> said we wouldn't help him before this. We've always been willing to occasionally give him food, buy him necessities, pay for his phone. Always. We've never told him otherwise.</p><p> </p><p>We told him we are not willing to pay for his apartment. We were willing to pay the deposit and first months rent and get him food enough to last to payday. He's been told now that this is it. Except for a ride if it's pouring rain, we're not paying for anything or doing anything else. He's been told if he screws us over...if we have to pay the rent because he blows his money...we're done. We will never give him any more assistance. Not another penny. If he doesn't believe it and screws up? Well, he'll learn the hard way when he's sleeping in a park this summer.</p><p> </p><p>We told him we'd pay the phone until June and we will. (J-1 is currently out of the picture but my son was told that we'll cut it off if he starts giving it to J-1 again.) Still, I'm not going back on my word - what does that teach? That it's okay to go back on your word? I've never, ever done that and I won't start now. </p><p> </p><p>We don't lie. We don't break promises. It's not who we are.</p><p> </p><p></p><p> </p><p>I disagree. I don't think it is that black and white, all or nothing. He can ask - I expect him to ask, it's what he does...but we'll say no except for those very minor things we've offered. <em>Offered</em> being key. WE suggested those things, the ride in the rain and the phone. If we say we'll do something, we'll do it. He asks for anything other than what we've offered, he's out of luck.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Lil, post: 643978, member: 17309"] Actually, we've [I]never[/I] said we wouldn't help him before this. We've always been willing to occasionally give him food, buy him necessities, pay for his phone. Always. We've never told him otherwise. We told him we are not willing to pay for his apartment. We were willing to pay the deposit and first months rent and get him food enough to last to payday. He's been told now that this is it. Except for a ride if it's pouring rain, we're not paying for anything or doing anything else. He's been told if he screws us over...if we have to pay the rent because he blows his money...we're done. We will never give him any more assistance. Not another penny. If he doesn't believe it and screws up? Well, he'll learn the hard way when he's sleeping in a park this summer. We told him we'd pay the phone until June and we will. (J-1 is currently out of the picture but my son was told that we'll cut it off if he starts giving it to J-1 again.) Still, I'm not going back on my word - what does that teach? That it's okay to go back on your word? I've never, ever done that and I won't start now. We don't lie. We don't break promises. It's not who we are. I disagree. I don't think it is that black and white, all or nothing. He can ask - I expect him to ask, it's what he does...but we'll say no except for those very minor things we've offered. [I]Offered[/I] being key. WE suggested those things, the ride in the rain and the phone. If we say we'll do something, we'll do it. He asks for anything other than what we've offered, he's out of luck. [/QUOTE]
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