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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 457530" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>It IS way too long BUT unless they are willing to work with you or you can get his medical doctor (psychiatrist, developmental pediatrician, pediatrician) to put in writing that he can only be on the bus X minutes per day, nothing is going to change with this. You actually have FAR better chances at getting them to give him lunch before he leaves school. I think there are state and/or federal guidelines on how long a child can be at school with-o being fed. Not sure though - you might have to do some googling to find the regs for the school lunch programs. Violating regs of these programs carries HUGE penalties for the district. </p><p></p><p>Sadly, I am not sure ANY state has a limit on how long a child can be on a bus before/after school. Some states have a guideline, but it is NOT enforceable from what I have seen. At least in my state it isn't!</p><p></p><p>In our area the average bus ride is about 40 min each way. The ride on the ONE Special Education bus is closer to 90 min each way. But the first on, first off thing applies to each of those routes. I think maybe the problem with the rides being the same before and after school is that they have kids that ride in the morning and after a full day, and kids that ride in the morning and after a half day. </p><p></p><p>in my opinion your best bet is to help him learn to enjoy the time as much as possible. thank you used to take a cd player with an audiobook to listen to with headphones on the bus ride. Then after a while he started taking one of those super cheap fm radios (around $1 at walmart or dollar store) and listening to that on headphones. Now he mostly reads or talks with the few kids who are his friends. </p><p></p><p>Is this bus supervised by just the driver, or is there an aide on the bus? that can make a HUGE difference in the ride. I hope you get it all worked out reasonable. They are NOT going to want to cope with him on the bus that long if he is hungry. If nothing else, stock up on those protein bars - Zone or Balance brand. Protein is key here, but you want it balanced with carbs and fat. Most of those "nutrition" bars are hugely high in carbs and really are more cookie/candy. Zone brand and Balance brand have the 30% protein, 30% fat and 40% carb - which is ideal for most people. They also come in flavors that taste good. I am incredibly picky about food and I HATE things that taste even remotely like health food. Always have - it is a major sensory issue for me, along with the texture of my food. There are several flavors in each brand that I LIKE.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, I would pack one of these with BB for the bus. Get a doctor note that he has to be allowed to eat it on the bus (this is if the school says time on the bus is not time at school so they don't have to feed him. It is a totally bogus argument because if he gets into trouble on the bus it will be the principal of his school who is in control of the punishment - and they will exercise "in loco parentis" if anything happens on the bus. So clearly they ARE in charge of him for that time and shoudl feed him before sending him home, but they will try to weasel out of it.) Having a snack that has a good amt of protein in it will make a HUGE difference in how he handles the bus ride at lunch. Actually, I have found that it is a huge factor in having any of my kids behave as well as possible. Most kids just don't handle things well if they are really hungry. The balance/zone bars are a great fast snack with-o giving a sugar rush - to let you know how they taste, my kids have each asked for those when allowed to pick out a candy bar or snack on the way to something. I keep them put up away from the pantry because they LOVE them.</p><p></p><p>If your son likes nuts, packets of those are also a good option. I get them at Sam's and have thank you keep a few packs in his backpack and in the winter in his coat pockets. There is a HUGE difference in how well my kids can cope with things if they eat a snack with a good amt of protein along with carbs/fats and if they eat a snack that has no/low protein. </p><p></p><p>I hope you can get things changed for your son. Or at least make it tolerable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 457530, member: 1233"] It IS way too long BUT unless they are willing to work with you or you can get his medical doctor (psychiatrist, developmental pediatrician, pediatrician) to put in writing that he can only be on the bus X minutes per day, nothing is going to change with this. You actually have FAR better chances at getting them to give him lunch before he leaves school. I think there are state and/or federal guidelines on how long a child can be at school with-o being fed. Not sure though - you might have to do some googling to find the regs for the school lunch programs. Violating regs of these programs carries HUGE penalties for the district. Sadly, I am not sure ANY state has a limit on how long a child can be on a bus before/after school. Some states have a guideline, but it is NOT enforceable from what I have seen. At least in my state it isn't! In our area the average bus ride is about 40 min each way. The ride on the ONE Special Education bus is closer to 90 min each way. But the first on, first off thing applies to each of those routes. I think maybe the problem with the rides being the same before and after school is that they have kids that ride in the morning and after a full day, and kids that ride in the morning and after a half day. in my opinion your best bet is to help him learn to enjoy the time as much as possible. thank you used to take a cd player with an audiobook to listen to with headphones on the bus ride. Then after a while he started taking one of those super cheap fm radios (around $1 at walmart or dollar store) and listening to that on headphones. Now he mostly reads or talks with the few kids who are his friends. Is this bus supervised by just the driver, or is there an aide on the bus? that can make a HUGE difference in the ride. I hope you get it all worked out reasonable. They are NOT going to want to cope with him on the bus that long if he is hungry. If nothing else, stock up on those protein bars - Zone or Balance brand. Protein is key here, but you want it balanced with carbs and fat. Most of those "nutrition" bars are hugely high in carbs and really are more cookie/candy. Zone brand and Balance brand have the 30% protein, 30% fat and 40% carb - which is ideal for most people. They also come in flavors that taste good. I am incredibly picky about food and I HATE things that taste even remotely like health food. Always have - it is a major sensory issue for me, along with the texture of my food. There are several flavors in each brand that I LIKE. Anyway, I would pack one of these with BB for the bus. Get a doctor note that he has to be allowed to eat it on the bus (this is if the school says time on the bus is not time at school so they don't have to feed him. It is a totally bogus argument because if he gets into trouble on the bus it will be the principal of his school who is in control of the punishment - and they will exercise "in loco parentis" if anything happens on the bus. So clearly they ARE in charge of him for that time and shoudl feed him before sending him home, but they will try to weasel out of it.) Having a snack that has a good amt of protein in it will make a HUGE difference in how he handles the bus ride at lunch. Actually, I have found that it is a huge factor in having any of my kids behave as well as possible. Most kids just don't handle things well if they are really hungry. The balance/zone bars are a great fast snack with-o giving a sugar rush - to let you know how they taste, my kids have each asked for those when allowed to pick out a candy bar or snack on the way to something. I keep them put up away from the pantry because they LOVE them. If your son likes nuts, packets of those are also a good option. I get them at Sam's and have thank you keep a few packs in his backpack and in the winter in his coat pockets. There is a HUGE difference in how well my kids can cope with things if they eat a snack with a good amt of protein along with carbs/fats and if they eat a snack that has no/low protein. I hope you can get things changed for your son. Or at least make it tolerable. [/QUOTE]
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