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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 124556" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>I think there are two schools of though on encopretic kids. </p><p></p><p>The first being - it's a medical condition and can be cured with a bevy of laxatives and the like. The second being - it's a control thing, and will only correct itself with therapy, and age. </p><p></p><p>My nose, and heart - like in the second group. </p><p></p><p>My son started being encopretic at 4. The doctors told us that this was due to the divorce, arguing and abuse going on in the home. It was the only thing he could control. So we started with the mineral oil, colace, suppositories, high fiber diet, enemas - and on and on. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING helped or worked. It basically made my son angrier because now he couldn't even control "that"!! The problem continued. </p><p></p><p>We went to an MD, we went to a gastro, we went to a strict schedule of diet, exercise, enemas and mineral oil as the gastro said it was impacted fecal matter. We did complete colon cleanses - and maybe for a month after EVEN AFTER he was totally cleaned out - and on a schedule - it would start again. The only thing this helped create was a person who would hide poopy underwear all over my house. </p><p></p><p>My tub and shower traps? Don't think I can ever ask DF to do that again - he had to crawl under the house to get to the traps and clean them out from so much fecal matter in the pipes. And we had it in the laundry if I accidentally missed a pair of loaded undies - it was in EVERYTHING and then stunk the drier to HIGH HEAVEN = few things compare to poop in laundry heated by a dryer on high heat. </p><p></p><p> And we were at our witz end about it all. When he was younger - he would decorate the bathroom walls the tub, the shower curtain or shower doors -that seemed to stop after DF made difficult child take a bucket of bleach water and scrub the walls/whatever down every time he did it - And bits of poop fell out of his pants as he walked through the house - and we'd step in it or it would get ground into the carpet in his room. And then there was the dogs - use your own imagination. </p><p></p><p>So we started making difficult child wash out all his britches OUTSIDE in a bucket - we gave him gloves, a scrub brush and put soap in a bottle JUST for him to use to clean his pants. We left the hose there and he had to dig a hole in the ground to get rid of the matter in the bucket - then hang his underwear on a line that no one could see from the road. When they dried out a day or two we'd bring them in and wash them separate. The only laundry detergent I found that kills the odor is Tide, and 20 mule team borax at LEAST 1 cup in every load of wash. And then we'd wash his jeans and pants, shorts separate - after that - we would run a load of JUST soap and bleach water to clean out the washing machine so our clothes wouldn't have poop on them or the smell. </p><p></p><p>Next - any underwear he hid - there was a consequence for that. The tub had to be washed WITH COMET every time he got out. He had his own wash cloth and towel that got washed with HIS jeans. I can't tell you the times until we did this that I swear I could smell poop on the towel I used on my face. Just nasty. </p><p></p><p>As far as the smell? I found that Febreze or Lysol crisp linen is effective for the fabric residue. You can get small bottles/cans of each if you look in the sample aisles at WM or Kmart, or Target. And We kept a bag of clean clothes and underpants with diaper wipes in the bag - and a bag in that bag for putting his soiled clothes in. I kept clean clothes and change of underwear in every car, at school, at daycare when he went before he was blacklisted.. </p><p></p><p>And we aired out our house a lot. I would look for deals on air freshener BOGO, and coupons, local sales - and I lived with LYSOL full size in my car. DF couldn't take it anymore and finally put plastic down on the back seat of his van and covered that with a sheet. </p><p></p><p>I'm not ashamed to say that I've even gotten difficult child out of the van and when no one was looking sprayed his behind with lysol. I have an ultra sensitive nose - and this was he77 on earth for me. </p><p></p><p>After all these years - at 17.5 years - I've had the first week in my own home with difficult child smell-free. After 11 years of abusing his bowels - I think they are finally starting to shrink back to normal - </p><p></p><p>No one wants to have this - but my son could basically poop on thought in his pants - we'd be in the therapists office and things would be fine - no odor and the therapist would hit on a topic that was sensitive and you could actually see difficult child sit there and poop his pants. And if you tried to get him up or do anything about it then you had poop AND meltdown. </p><p></p><p>We thought being around friends would stop it - nope. </p><p>We thought being around girls as he got older would stop it - nope</p><p>we thought making him wash out his pants would stop it - nope</p><p>We thought making nothing of it would stop it - nope</p><p>We thought making him wash out the tub would stop it - nope</p><p>Washing his own clothes would stop it - nope</p><p>Washing /showering outside in a makeshift shower stop it - nope</p><p></p><p>Age stopped it. Age and the fact that he's been in therapy to get better ideas on how he CAN cope with a situation and finding out that he IS in control of a lot more than his bowels. </p><p></p><p>Save yourself some aggravation - get a plastic cover for his bed. </p><p>Get Tide and 20 Mule Team borox and make him wash out his own poopy pants - then air dry, then wash underpants and jeans alone. </p><p>Get yourself some sample sizes of lysol or febreeze to carry in your purse</p><p>Carry a bag of clean clothes and diaper wipes everywhere. </p><p></p><p>And leave a package of diaper wipes in the bathroom with a bag for the dirty ones to go in so the toilet doesn't get clogged. </p><p></p><p>Get some draino for cleaning drains or vinegar and baking soda - one box and one bottle each month to keep the drains and the feces in the drains from coming back up into the tub. </p><p></p><p>And hang in there. </p><p></p><p>Hugs</p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 124556, member: 4964"] I think there are two schools of though on encopretic kids. The first being - it's a medical condition and can be cured with a bevy of laxatives and the like. The second being - it's a control thing, and will only correct itself with therapy, and age. My nose, and heart - like in the second group. My son started being encopretic at 4. The doctors told us that this was due to the divorce, arguing and abuse going on in the home. It was the only thing he could control. So we started with the mineral oil, colace, suppositories, high fiber diet, enemas - and on and on. NOTHING and I mean NOTHING helped or worked. It basically made my son angrier because now he couldn't even control "that"!! The problem continued. We went to an MD, we went to a gastro, we went to a strict schedule of diet, exercise, enemas and mineral oil as the gastro said it was impacted fecal matter. We did complete colon cleanses - and maybe for a month after EVEN AFTER he was totally cleaned out - and on a schedule - it would start again. The only thing this helped create was a person who would hide poopy underwear all over my house. My tub and shower traps? Don't think I can ever ask DF to do that again - he had to crawl under the house to get to the traps and clean them out from so much fecal matter in the pipes. And we had it in the laundry if I accidentally missed a pair of loaded undies - it was in EVERYTHING and then stunk the drier to HIGH HEAVEN = few things compare to poop in laundry heated by a dryer on high heat. And we were at our witz end about it all. When he was younger - he would decorate the bathroom walls the tub, the shower curtain or shower doors -that seemed to stop after DF made difficult child take a bucket of bleach water and scrub the walls/whatever down every time he did it - And bits of poop fell out of his pants as he walked through the house - and we'd step in it or it would get ground into the carpet in his room. And then there was the dogs - use your own imagination. So we started making difficult child wash out all his britches OUTSIDE in a bucket - we gave him gloves, a scrub brush and put soap in a bottle JUST for him to use to clean his pants. We left the hose there and he had to dig a hole in the ground to get rid of the matter in the bucket - then hang his underwear on a line that no one could see from the road. When they dried out a day or two we'd bring them in and wash them separate. The only laundry detergent I found that kills the odor is Tide, and 20 mule team borax at LEAST 1 cup in every load of wash. And then we'd wash his jeans and pants, shorts separate - after that - we would run a load of JUST soap and bleach water to clean out the washing machine so our clothes wouldn't have poop on them or the smell. Next - any underwear he hid - there was a consequence for that. The tub had to be washed WITH COMET every time he got out. He had his own wash cloth and towel that got washed with HIS jeans. I can't tell you the times until we did this that I swear I could smell poop on the towel I used on my face. Just nasty. As far as the smell? I found that Febreze or Lysol crisp linen is effective for the fabric residue. You can get small bottles/cans of each if you look in the sample aisles at WM or Kmart, or Target. And We kept a bag of clean clothes and underpants with diaper wipes in the bag - and a bag in that bag for putting his soiled clothes in. I kept clean clothes and change of underwear in every car, at school, at daycare when he went before he was blacklisted.. And we aired out our house a lot. I would look for deals on air freshener BOGO, and coupons, local sales - and I lived with LYSOL full size in my car. DF couldn't take it anymore and finally put plastic down on the back seat of his van and covered that with a sheet. I'm not ashamed to say that I've even gotten difficult child out of the van and when no one was looking sprayed his behind with lysol. I have an ultra sensitive nose - and this was he77 on earth for me. After all these years - at 17.5 years - I've had the first week in my own home with difficult child smell-free. After 11 years of abusing his bowels - I think they are finally starting to shrink back to normal - No one wants to have this - but my son could basically poop on thought in his pants - we'd be in the therapists office and things would be fine - no odor and the therapist would hit on a topic that was sensitive and you could actually see difficult child sit there and poop his pants. And if you tried to get him up or do anything about it then you had poop AND meltdown. We thought being around friends would stop it - nope. We thought being around girls as he got older would stop it - nope we thought making him wash out his pants would stop it - nope We thought making nothing of it would stop it - nope We thought making him wash out the tub would stop it - nope Washing his own clothes would stop it - nope Washing /showering outside in a makeshift shower stop it - nope Age stopped it. Age and the fact that he's been in therapy to get better ideas on how he CAN cope with a situation and finding out that he IS in control of a lot more than his bowels. Save yourself some aggravation - get a plastic cover for his bed. Get Tide and 20 Mule Team borox and make him wash out his own poopy pants - then air dry, then wash underpants and jeans alone. Get yourself some sample sizes of lysol or febreeze to carry in your purse Carry a bag of clean clothes and diaper wipes everywhere. And leave a package of diaper wipes in the bathroom with a bag for the dirty ones to go in so the toilet doesn't get clogged. Get some draino for cleaning drains or vinegar and baking soda - one box and one bottle each month to keep the drains and the feces in the drains from coming back up into the tub. And hang in there. Hugs Star [/QUOTE]
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