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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 131085" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>So why do you feel you did something bad? Well done, it takes courage but you did a GOOD thing. You got the meeting back on track, you cut through the distraction factor of an attention-seeker with her own agenda, and you possibly even saved this program from being dumped due to the apparently strong vocal opposition (from one person).</p><p></p><p>Too often, people do not speak up when they should. I am one who speaks up (or tries to) but I do admit, I will only speak up if I feel I need to add to the information, AND I feel others there are uncertain or reluctant. There are often times when I COULD speak up purely to enjoy being disruptive (I haven't done that since I was at school); I recognise the temptation, but it is important to listen to your own motives first, before shooting your mouth off. When you speak, you also need to listen, and to also give other people a chance to express THEIR views also - sounds like this woman only wanted to hear the sound of her own voice.</p><p></p><p>And I'll tell you a secret - those big words she is throwing around, she may not be as knowledgeable as she wants you to think. A truly educated person will NOT use jargon, they will be able to explain it simply and effectively. A person who chooses to use jargon, especially at a public meeting which includes lay people, is deliberately trying to make themselves seem important, and belittle everyone else (and especially everyone else's opinion).</p><p></p><p>Not knowing the jargon does NOT make you lacking in intelligence, nor does it mean you lack practical understanding of the topic. it just means that your knowledge comes from personal experience rather than from out of a textbook. It sounds to me like she's done some reading, maybe picked up a few big words, may even work as an educator in some way, but still will be lacking a great deal of the broader understanding that you can only get not only with hands on experience, but when you also LISTEN to other people and how they're coping (as happens, on this site).</p><p></p><p>This bloke was there to explain some plans, some ideas to you all, and to get feedback on this. She sounds like she was spouting theory from one particular viewpoint, which frankly doesn't sound relevant to the agenda.</p><p></p><p>And you succeeded in shutting her up - if she REALLY knew her stuff, if she REALLY felt that this proposal was damaging, a waste of resources etc, she would not have shut up. She sounds like a paper tiger - looks scary, intimidating and roars authoritatively, but is completely lacking in substance and is in fact a total fraud.</p><p></p><p>Next time she turns up and starts throwing words around, ask her to define the terms for those present who have not had the benefit of more administrative experience. Then ask her to explain the relevance of what she is saying - in what way do her words actually APPLY to the topic at hand?</p><p></p><p>I wouldn't be surprised if, in the future, she sees you at a meeting and decides to not make a scene.</p><p></p><p>You did a good thing. Well and truly. Those other ten people, and the speaker, would have wanted to kiss the ground you walked on. Just don't let it go to your head or you risk turning into That Woman!</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 131085, member: 1991"] So why do you feel you did something bad? Well done, it takes courage but you did a GOOD thing. You got the meeting back on track, you cut through the distraction factor of an attention-seeker with her own agenda, and you possibly even saved this program from being dumped due to the apparently strong vocal opposition (from one person). Too often, people do not speak up when they should. I am one who speaks up (or tries to) but I do admit, I will only speak up if I feel I need to add to the information, AND I feel others there are uncertain or reluctant. There are often times when I COULD speak up purely to enjoy being disruptive (I haven't done that since I was at school); I recognise the temptation, but it is important to listen to your own motives first, before shooting your mouth off. When you speak, you also need to listen, and to also give other people a chance to express THEIR views also - sounds like this woman only wanted to hear the sound of her own voice. And I'll tell you a secret - those big words she is throwing around, she may not be as knowledgeable as she wants you to think. A truly educated person will NOT use jargon, they will be able to explain it simply and effectively. A person who chooses to use jargon, especially at a public meeting which includes lay people, is deliberately trying to make themselves seem important, and belittle everyone else (and especially everyone else's opinion). Not knowing the jargon does NOT make you lacking in intelligence, nor does it mean you lack practical understanding of the topic. it just means that your knowledge comes from personal experience rather than from out of a textbook. It sounds to me like she's done some reading, maybe picked up a few big words, may even work as an educator in some way, but still will be lacking a great deal of the broader understanding that you can only get not only with hands on experience, but when you also LISTEN to other people and how they're coping (as happens, on this site). This bloke was there to explain some plans, some ideas to you all, and to get feedback on this. She sounds like she was spouting theory from one particular viewpoint, which frankly doesn't sound relevant to the agenda. And you succeeded in shutting her up - if she REALLY knew her stuff, if she REALLY felt that this proposal was damaging, a waste of resources etc, she would not have shut up. She sounds like a paper tiger - looks scary, intimidating and roars authoritatively, but is completely lacking in substance and is in fact a total fraud. Next time she turns up and starts throwing words around, ask her to define the terms for those present who have not had the benefit of more administrative experience. Then ask her to explain the relevance of what she is saying - in what way do her words actually APPLY to the topic at hand? I wouldn't be surprised if, in the future, she sees you at a meeting and decides to not make a scene. You did a good thing. Well and truly. Those other ten people, and the speaker, would have wanted to kiss the ground you walked on. Just don't let it go to your head or you risk turning into That Woman! Marg [/QUOTE]
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