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<blockquote data-quote="Jabberwockey" data-source="post: 687708" data-attributes="member: 18238"><p>Sorry it took so long to respond. Wanted to see if some of these were addressed before I chimed in.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I wouldn't say he has improved considerably. Before the fire, he was making improvements but considering how much we were having to do in the form of food and keeping the electric from being cut off while there was candy scattered around the apartment and alcohol in the fridge I wouldn't consider it to be a huge improvement. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>We've tried many times before. "I don't know" and anger are the usual responses. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I'm better than Lil. Its less personal to me. Partly its a dad thing and partly its having more experience dealing with people like this from work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Its not that he walked out of the job. Its that he lied to us about it. We've tried to make it clear that its his life, his responsibility, HIS consequences. Whether we've succeeded or not, who knows.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Lil and I both take being lied to VERY personally. Our son knows this and still not only lies to us but lies to us about crap that is easily verified. The big issue with the lying is trust. He never has done anything to gain back my trust after all the stealing from us and the lying only makes it worse.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Actually, we checked mileage. It was a bit over what he really needed to get there and back but not significantly. Probably ran by a friends house in town before coming home was all. We never even mentioned it to him.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Like I said to A Dad, he has a long history of lying to us and its a betrayal of trust. I had a difficult time letting him come home for a bit because of that trust issue. Still do regular "security checks" making sure certain things aren't missing.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Responsibility is the big issue here. I thought Lil was going to snap out on him when he said it was the managers fault for calling her. Not long after that she almost screamed at him "Happy Effing Mothers Day to me!" and finally hung up the phone.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jabberwockey, post: 687708, member: 18238"] Sorry it took so long to respond. Wanted to see if some of these were addressed before I chimed in. I wouldn't say he has improved considerably. Before the fire, he was making improvements but considering how much we were having to do in the form of food and keeping the electric from being cut off while there was candy scattered around the apartment and alcohol in the fridge I wouldn't consider it to be a huge improvement. We've tried many times before. "I don't know" and anger are the usual responses. I'm better than Lil. Its less personal to me. Partly its a dad thing and partly its having more experience dealing with people like this from work. Its not that he walked out of the job. Its that he lied to us about it. We've tried to make it clear that its his life, his responsibility, HIS consequences. Whether we've succeeded or not, who knows. Lil and I both take being lied to VERY personally. Our son knows this and still not only lies to us but lies to us about crap that is easily verified. The big issue with the lying is trust. He never has done anything to gain back my trust after all the stealing from us and the lying only makes it worse. Actually, we checked mileage. It was a bit over what he really needed to get there and back but not significantly. Probably ran by a friends house in town before coming home was all. We never even mentioned it to him. Like I said to A Dad, he has a long history of lying to us and its a betrayal of trust. I had a difficult time letting him come home for a bit because of that trust issue. Still do regular "security checks" making sure certain things aren't missing. Responsibility is the big issue here. I thought Lil was going to snap out on him when he said it was the managers fault for calling her. Not long after that she almost screamed at him "Happy Effing Mothers Day to me!" and finally hung up the phone. [/QUOTE]
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