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<blockquote data-quote="Copabanana" data-source="post: 687898" data-attributes="member: 18958"><p>This post of yours, Insane, I find highly interesting and deep. I will have to do some work to understand it.</p><p></p><p>What you are saying here, I think, is that everything has a cost. And our children need to understand that, both in terms of the cost to themselves and the cost to others around them. That in addition to all of the specific, objective changes we want for them--as important, or more important I would say, is their need to understand human suffering, and take responsibility for it. </p><p></p><p>As we feel theirs, their is their need to see ours, and that of others. And to get there, we need to own, and to acknowledge and to remedy our own suffering--to take responsibility--not just for ourselves but for them.</p><p></p><p>Nobody can or should be a doormat for another person. There is right and wrong in this world. Taking responsibility to do right for oneself and oneself is both a real thing--and a necessary one.</p><p></p><p>So how to translate this into a stance that works? How to keep them close, while this process is modeled? Insane, this is tough. Did I get the gist of what you wrote?</p><p></p><p>Insane, glad you are here with me.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Copabanana, post: 687898, member: 18958"] This post of yours, Insane, I find highly interesting and deep. I will have to do some work to understand it. What you are saying here, I think, is that everything has a cost. And our children need to understand that, both in terms of the cost to themselves and the cost to others around them. That in addition to all of the specific, objective changes we want for them--as important, or more important I would say, is their need to understand human suffering, and take responsibility for it. As we feel theirs, their is their need to see ours, and that of others. And to get there, we need to own, and to acknowledge and to remedy our own suffering--to take responsibility--not just for ourselves but for them. Nobody can or should be a doormat for another person. There is right and wrong in this world. Taking responsibility to do right for oneself and oneself is both a real thing--and a necessary one. So how to translate this into a stance that works? How to keep them close, while this process is modeled? Insane, this is tough. Did I get the gist of what you wrote? Insane, glad you are here with me. [/QUOTE]
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