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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 533603" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>I think it is AWESOME that J likes himself in spite of his differences or because of them. I so wish that had been the case with Wiz. One of the MAJOR reasons we first saw a psychiatrist was because Wiz tried to kill himself at age 7 and if I had not put my body between his head and the concrete and brick wall he was trying to smash it against, he would have ended up in the ER at best. This combined the same week with his first attempt to kill J after years of harming her to a lesser extent and being very closely supervised to prevent that harm. I am speaking of supervision to the point they were NEVER left in the same room alone for even 30 seconds - one of them came with us if we were the only one in the room. It was HARD to do with 3 young children, as I am sure you can imagine. </p><p></p><p>I truly, deeply, from the bottom of my soul, hope that J's opinion stays the same and that there is not a time when his actions dictate medications must be administered for safety. </p><p></p><p>What I think MANY people truly do not understand is that someone wth adhd does NOT respond to stims the way the average person does. My son NEVER becomes speeded up by stimulants. Taking more than rx'd meant that he became overly sedated. More like someone right after surgery than someone on speed. I have been around both in my life and he was scarily like someone on opiates or sedatives rather than someone on stimulants. This was a major factor in our continuing with medication for him. I would urge ANYONE who reacted to stms as being on speed to stop taking them, or to have their child stop taking them. but for someone who truly had adhd, they react in a very different way to the medication.</p><p></p><p>I hope and pray that J is ALWAYS happy with who he is. I hope you NEVER live iwth the He(( that is knowing your child wants to die for ANY reason, esp because he does not fit in with society. It took until Wiz was on <strong>THREE</strong> antidepressants, one for adhd, one for depression and one for insomnia (chronic family problem going back generations on my dad's side of the family) that he was able to come out of the depression caused partly by his asperger's and partly by being high enough functioning to KNOW how different he is and become a functional person who is basically normal. </p><p></p><p>If ever J is on medications, I hope you remember to ask him OFTEN if he likes who he is while on them. recently Wiz told me that one of the MAIN reasons he has not experimented with illegal substances or alcohol is because they interfere with his medications and he likes who he is ON medications and does not want to mess that up. He remembers that we ALWAYS asked this, and how his medications changed how he felt about himself. By always he specifically said from the time he first took them through every medication and life change that we asked that question. It let us know when things were going off course and let him feel he could ALWAYS tell us when things needed to be tweaked or changed. I think this is vital for every child on medications for any reason. I didn't do it because anyone told me to, it just seemed like he should like what they did and how they changed how he acted or they should be changed because I could not feel what he felt. </p><p></p><p>My wish for EVERY child is that they feel about themselves ALWAYS the way that J feels about himself now - whether they are on medications or not.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 533603, member: 1233"] I think it is AWESOME that J likes himself in spite of his differences or because of them. I so wish that had been the case with Wiz. One of the MAJOR reasons we first saw a psychiatrist was because Wiz tried to kill himself at age 7 and if I had not put my body between his head and the concrete and brick wall he was trying to smash it against, he would have ended up in the ER at best. This combined the same week with his first attempt to kill J after years of harming her to a lesser extent and being very closely supervised to prevent that harm. I am speaking of supervision to the point they were NEVER left in the same room alone for even 30 seconds - one of them came with us if we were the only one in the room. It was HARD to do with 3 young children, as I am sure you can imagine. I truly, deeply, from the bottom of my soul, hope that J's opinion stays the same and that there is not a time when his actions dictate medications must be administered for safety. What I think MANY people truly do not understand is that someone wth adhd does NOT respond to stims the way the average person does. My son NEVER becomes speeded up by stimulants. Taking more than rx'd meant that he became overly sedated. More like someone right after surgery than someone on speed. I have been around both in my life and he was scarily like someone on opiates or sedatives rather than someone on stimulants. This was a major factor in our continuing with medication for him. I would urge ANYONE who reacted to stms as being on speed to stop taking them, or to have their child stop taking them. but for someone who truly had adhd, they react in a very different way to the medication. I hope and pray that J is ALWAYS happy with who he is. I hope you NEVER live iwth the He(( that is knowing your child wants to die for ANY reason, esp because he does not fit in with society. It took until Wiz was on [B]THREE[/B] antidepressants, one for adhd, one for depression and one for insomnia (chronic family problem going back generations on my dad's side of the family) that he was able to come out of the depression caused partly by his asperger's and partly by being high enough functioning to KNOW how different he is and become a functional person who is basically normal. If ever J is on medications, I hope you remember to ask him OFTEN if he likes who he is while on them. recently Wiz told me that one of the MAIN reasons he has not experimented with illegal substances or alcohol is because they interfere with his medications and he likes who he is ON medications and does not want to mess that up. He remembers that we ALWAYS asked this, and how his medications changed how he felt about himself. By always he specifically said from the time he first took them through every medication and life change that we asked that question. It let us know when things were going off course and let him feel he could ALWAYS tell us when things needed to be tweaked or changed. I think this is vital for every child on medications for any reason. I didn't do it because anyone told me to, it just seemed like he should like what they did and how they changed how he acted or they should be changed because I could not feel what he felt. My wish for EVERY child is that they feel about themselves ALWAYS the way that J feels about himself now - whether they are on medications or not. [/QUOTE]
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