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<blockquote data-quote="Nancy" data-source="post: 547850" data-attributes="member: 59"><p>Hi Pam and welcome. I'm sorry you have to be here but you have found a group of parents who understand like no other.Spice, K2, synthetic pot, is now illegal on the federal level so it is not legal in your state. In fact the Federal Govt has recently announced it is clamping down on the distribution and use of synthetic pot. It is apparent in our state where raids have been going on in many head shops and smoke shops. There are many cases pending and it would please me to no end if they all got shut down (I know it won't happen but I can wish).</p><p></p><p>Many of us have had to draw the line in the sand with our drug users and tell them that they either have to get help for their drug use or find alternative living arrangements. It is not easy and every one of us who have had to do it feels the same as you do, they have no place to go, they will live on the street, they may die, etc., etc. We gave our daughter the ultimatum of treatment or leave our house and she did choose treatment but several months later and after spending $25,000 out of pocket she relapsed. We had to make her leave out house and it was the most awful thing I have ever done and it still breaks my heart when I think about it. She lived for several weeks with a neighbor boy who was on heroin and then begged to come back home. We said no and she found a sober house to go to. She stayed there several months and participated in their treatment but moved out and relapsed again. </p><p></p><p>When she was living here we had to hide everything of value in the house. I slept with my purse under my bed, I took my laptop and cell phone and anything valuable with me wherever I went. We did not ever let her in the house alone. We left no money or credit cards around and yet she still found ways to steal from us or her sister. She would go out in the evening and either never come back or come home at 4 am drunk. I couldn't live like that anymore. Our house was a prison and we were a mess. I simply could not live like that anymore. I was either going to divorce my husband on move out with our other daughter or she had to leave. I wasn't willing to sacrifice the rest of the family anymore.</p><p></p><p>Your son needs treatment, you know that. He isn't going to go willingly. You are going to have to force the issue. He has a job, if he doesn't want to get help he can move out and find out what it is like to have to pay rent and live on his own. You won't be able to do this alone, you need support. There are support groups that will help you through this process. You may also want to start making calls to treatment centers so that when the time comes you have available resources to send him to. </p><p></p><p>You are not alone, we have all walked in your shoes, most of us still are.</p><p></p><p>Nancy</p><p></p><p>P.S. You can tell an addict is lying if there lips are moving. They will lie, cheat, steal and sometimes worst to get their drugs. Drug addiction gets a hold on them and you are right, we no longer recognize the child we raised.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nancy, post: 547850, member: 59"] Hi Pam and welcome. I'm sorry you have to be here but you have found a group of parents who understand like no other.Spice, K2, synthetic pot, is now illegal on the federal level so it is not legal in your state. In fact the Federal Govt has recently announced it is clamping down on the distribution and use of synthetic pot. It is apparent in our state where raids have been going on in many head shops and smoke shops. There are many cases pending and it would please me to no end if they all got shut down (I know it won't happen but I can wish). Many of us have had to draw the line in the sand with our drug users and tell them that they either have to get help for their drug use or find alternative living arrangements. It is not easy and every one of us who have had to do it feels the same as you do, they have no place to go, they will live on the street, they may die, etc., etc. We gave our daughter the ultimatum of treatment or leave our house and she did choose treatment but several months later and after spending $25,000 out of pocket she relapsed. We had to make her leave out house and it was the most awful thing I have ever done and it still breaks my heart when I think about it. She lived for several weeks with a neighbor boy who was on heroin and then begged to come back home. We said no and she found a sober house to go to. She stayed there several months and participated in their treatment but moved out and relapsed again. When she was living here we had to hide everything of value in the house. I slept with my purse under my bed, I took my laptop and cell phone and anything valuable with me wherever I went. We did not ever let her in the house alone. We left no money or credit cards around and yet she still found ways to steal from us or her sister. She would go out in the evening and either never come back or come home at 4 am drunk. I couldn't live like that anymore. Our house was a prison and we were a mess. I simply could not live like that anymore. I was either going to divorce my husband on move out with our other daughter or she had to leave. I wasn't willing to sacrifice the rest of the family anymore. Your son needs treatment, you know that. He isn't going to go willingly. You are going to have to force the issue. He has a job, if he doesn't want to get help he can move out and find out what it is like to have to pay rent and live on his own. You won't be able to do this alone, you need support. There are support groups that will help you through this process. You may also want to start making calls to treatment centers so that when the time comes you have available resources to send him to. You are not alone, we have all walked in your shoes, most of us still are. Nancy P.S. You can tell an addict is lying if there lips are moving. They will lie, cheat, steal and sometimes worst to get their drugs. Drug addiction gets a hold on them and you are right, we no longer recognize the child we raised. [/QUOTE]
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