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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 466199" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>Wondering...</p><p>Who did the original diagnosis and when?</p><p></p><p>One diagnosis describes behavior and doesn't give any clues as to what is actually going on.</p><p>The other diagnosis is common enough that if it was "all" that is going on, the behavior likely would NOT be so extreme.</p><p></p><p>I'm going to give you two possible scenarios. There could easily be a dozen more, but this is just to get you thinking.</p><p></p><p>1) Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or something related to that. These kids have can have extreme issues and extreme reactions to stuff. Very hard to handle if you (parent, teacher, anybody) don't know what is going on - partly because the "normal" way to handle this stuff, is the absolute <em><u>wrong</u></em> way to handle an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kid.</p><p></p><p>2) A raft of "smaller" issues that, when taken together, are enough to drive anybody around the bend. Because these are invisible, or hard to test for, or don't really hit the radar until they are older... everybody assumes the kid's problems are the result of "poor parenting". NOT. NOT. NOT. (been there done that - can you tell?)</p><p></p><p>Now, the interesting thing is, many of these smaller issues may be part of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) - or not. Other things are stand-alone problems that may exist with a raft of other possible dxes. </p><p></p><p>My take?</p><p>Get as complete an evaluation as it is possible to get.</p><p>Including separate Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluations.</p><p>And find a way to get it done yesterday (only partly kidding... not possible, but you do NOT want to take 2 years to get there).</p><p></p><p>Here's some of the things I'd be asking myself about... and if they kind of fit or might be a possibility, insist that these be included in the evaluations...</p><p></p><p>1) hearing</p><p>2) vision</p><p>3) sensory issues (Occupational Therapist (OT))</p><p>4) motor skills issues - fine, gross, or both (Occupational Therapist (OT))</p><p>5) verbal processing issues and/or auditory processing disorders - probably can't get a complete diagnosis at this point (usually about age 7 or 8), BUT... Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) screening is vital, whether they find stuff or not. For example, if his language development is fairly close to "normal", there could still be problems handling background noise and other such things. But if language development shows problems... Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) therapy is a must.</p><p>6) learning disabilities... don't necessarily show up strongly now, but will shortly. Dyslexia? dysgraphia? dyscalcula? others? Keep these on the radar, even if they can't test for them right now.</p><p>7) sleep issues - does he go to sleep "as soon as he hits the pillow"? or "take forever"? (problem either way)... Dark circles? Sleep issues are not taken seriously yet - but if these are a factor, at least YOU need to know, and start trying to find ways to help. Not just quantity of sleep, but also quality - enough REM cycles and so on. Remember: sleep deprivation is a form of torture.</p><p>8) Other medical issues... if their system is out of whack, it will affect behavior. Thyroid? any chance of diabetes? there's a raft of other medical reasons for behavior issues. These would be taken up with the pediatrician. or PCP.</p><p>9) comprehensive evaluation by specialist such as neuropsychologist (there are other options) - looking at anything and everything else possible to explain what is going on right now. Any chance of mood disorder? (seriously - if other un-diagnosed issues are outstanding, kids this young can have serious anxiety and/or depression as a result of not having their needs met). ADHD/ADD. Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD). Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). Aspergers. And a raft of other stuff. diagnosis, or flag for future rulings.</p><p></p><p>Head spinning yet? I know. Its huge. There are SO many possibilities. How can you ever keep track of it all? If you go up to Site Help and Resources, there's a thread on how to put together a parent report (not called exactly that...). Its worth it.</p><p></p><p>School evaluations are not generally thorough, but can catch some stuff.</p><p>Mostly - get what makes sense there, and get the rest on your own.</p><p></p><p>And when you start going around the bend with all this stuff... the rest of us are here.</p><p>Need a knot? someone has one to spare.</p><p>Need a soft shoulder? Lots of those, too.</p><p>Need to borrow some psychological armour for the battle? Yup. From the been there done that Parents.</p><p></p><p>Hang in there.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 466199, member: 11791"] Wondering... Who did the original diagnosis and when? One diagnosis describes behavior and doesn't give any clues as to what is actually going on. The other diagnosis is common enough that if it was "all" that is going on, the behavior likely would NOT be so extreme. I'm going to give you two possible scenarios. There could easily be a dozen more, but this is just to get you thinking. 1) Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or something related to that. These kids have can have extreme issues and extreme reactions to stuff. Very hard to handle if you (parent, teacher, anybody) don't know what is going on - partly because the "normal" way to handle this stuff, is the absolute [I][U]wrong[/U][/I] way to handle an Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kid. 2) A raft of "smaller" issues that, when taken together, are enough to drive anybody around the bend. Because these are invisible, or hard to test for, or don't really hit the radar until they are older... everybody assumes the kid's problems are the result of "poor parenting". NOT. NOT. NOT. (been there done that - can you tell?) Now, the interesting thing is, many of these smaller issues may be part of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) - or not. Other things are stand-alone problems that may exist with a raft of other possible dxes. My take? Get as complete an evaluation as it is possible to get. Including separate Occupational Therapist (OT) and Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) evaluations. And find a way to get it done yesterday (only partly kidding... not possible, but you do NOT want to take 2 years to get there). Here's some of the things I'd be asking myself about... and if they kind of fit or might be a possibility, insist that these be included in the evaluations... 1) hearing 2) vision 3) sensory issues (Occupational Therapist (OT)) 4) motor skills issues - fine, gross, or both (Occupational Therapist (OT)) 5) verbal processing issues and/or auditory processing disorders - probably can't get a complete diagnosis at this point (usually about age 7 or 8), BUT... Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) screening is vital, whether they find stuff or not. For example, if his language development is fairly close to "normal", there could still be problems handling background noise and other such things. But if language development shows problems... Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) therapy is a must. 6) learning disabilities... don't necessarily show up strongly now, but will shortly. Dyslexia? dysgraphia? dyscalcula? others? Keep these on the radar, even if they can't test for them right now. 7) sleep issues - does he go to sleep "as soon as he hits the pillow"? or "take forever"? (problem either way)... Dark circles? Sleep issues are not taken seriously yet - but if these are a factor, at least YOU need to know, and start trying to find ways to help. Not just quantity of sleep, but also quality - enough REM cycles and so on. Remember: sleep deprivation is a form of torture. 8) Other medical issues... if their system is out of whack, it will affect behavior. Thyroid? any chance of diabetes? there's a raft of other medical reasons for behavior issues. These would be taken up with the pediatrician. or PCP. 9) comprehensive evaluation by specialist such as neuropsychologist (there are other options) - looking at anything and everything else possible to explain what is going on right now. Any chance of mood disorder? (seriously - if other un-diagnosed issues are outstanding, kids this young can have serious anxiety and/or depression as a result of not having their needs met). ADHD/ADD. Developmental Coordination Disorder (DCD). Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). Aspergers. And a raft of other stuff. diagnosis, or flag for future rulings. Head spinning yet? I know. Its huge. There are SO many possibilities. How can you ever keep track of it all? If you go up to Site Help and Resources, there's a thread on how to put together a parent report (not called exactly that...). Its worth it. School evaluations are not generally thorough, but can catch some stuff. Mostly - get what makes sense there, and get the rest on your own. And when you start going around the bend with all this stuff... the rest of us are here. Need a knot? someone has one to spare. Need a soft shoulder? Lots of those, too. Need to borrow some psychological armour for the battle? Yup. From the been there done that Parents. Hang in there. [/QUOTE]
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