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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 463917" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>Looking at the autism spectrum can be overwhelming, but as a mom of a child on the spectrum and an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who worked with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids for 20+ years that did pop into my head too. We are not there looking at him so of course can't diagnose anything but offer suggestions to look at. Unfortunately diagnosis can still be so subjective depending on the experience of those you work with. An advantage of getting the right label regardless, is of course your abilty to advocate for the appropriate accomodatons. by the way, sending to the principal is NOT an appropriate accomodation, however, as you are discovering, there are those that just do it because they are overwhelmed-regardless of the effect on the child. I hold my breath daily hoping someone in the wrong place (a sub or a mainstream teacher) wont grab my son and send him to the office for another lame suspension. If those kinds of interventions would actually work we likely all would say GO AHEAD and do it! but since many of our kids are not able to be cured with a suspension it simply does not work....(for multiple reasons but that is my flippant one, smile).</p><p>For a label of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) (in the schools) or a diagnosis (in the medical setting) of autism or aspergers or other Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) diagnosis, a child only needs to have one or two symptoms in several categories/groups of symptoms. That is why kids look so different with the same label. So seeing that he does not have many of the symptoms still may not rule it out. BUT there are certainly kids who simply have language delays, sensory issues and difficulties with transitions (like the constant hallway issues-very hard on kids with autism to go from one thing to another) without meeting criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). I have worked with numerous kids who were diagnosed ADHD, anxiety disorder and/or seemed slightly delayed or even gifted in early school years (with notes about sensory isses often scattered in the records) only to later be labeled Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). Often the social issues are not as evident until social language demands increase in later years and the demands for more complex sharing and turn taking plus taking another child's perspective are required. I denied it in my own son and was actually working at an autism center at the time! It is a painful thing to consider for sure, but in the end for us it was the best thing to accept in our case. The strategies for teaching/learning and discipline are vastly different from kids who are having more general conduct issues (also legitimate but just can need different strategies). Hopefully each of these people on your assessment team will listen to you and your concerns during the evaluation. process and will spend enough time with your son to actually find out what will meet his needs in a more gentle, appropriate way. My son has a veiw of himself as "bad" because people actually tell him he is rude and he has been in situations where he has constant consequences. I protect him as much as I can but you are right to stand up for him. Welcome to the sp. needs. world...youre right, it is tiring but it is well worth it!</p><p><span style="color: lime"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">me: 47 yr old single adoptive mom to son (adopted at age 2)</span></span></p><p><span style="color: lime"><span style="font-family: 'Tahoma'">son/difficult child 14 yr old with autism, acquired brain injury (surgery at age 2 to remove blood filled mass leaving frontal and temporal lobe injury with overall mass effects), borderline cogntive delays, anxiety, adhd, temporal lobe seizures, attachment issues. Symptoms: severe anxeity and fight or flight responses, impulsive, verbal and physical aggression, social and communication issues. Loves watching sports, really desperately wants friends-not much of a clue though,smile...loves swimming and therapeutic horseback riding.</span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 463917, member: 12886"] Looking at the autism spectrum can be overwhelming, but as a mom of a child on the spectrum and an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who worked with Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) kids for 20+ years that did pop into my head too. We are not there looking at him so of course can't diagnose anything but offer suggestions to look at. Unfortunately diagnosis can still be so subjective depending on the experience of those you work with. An advantage of getting the right label regardless, is of course your abilty to advocate for the appropriate accomodatons. by the way, sending to the principal is NOT an appropriate accomodation, however, as you are discovering, there are those that just do it because they are overwhelmed-regardless of the effect on the child. I hold my breath daily hoping someone in the wrong place (a sub or a mainstream teacher) wont grab my son and send him to the office for another lame suspension. If those kinds of interventions would actually work we likely all would say GO AHEAD and do it! but since many of our kids are not able to be cured with a suspension it simply does not work....(for multiple reasons but that is my flippant one, smile). For a label of Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) (in the schools) or a diagnosis (in the medical setting) of autism or aspergers or other Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) diagnosis, a child only needs to have one or two symptoms in several categories/groups of symptoms. That is why kids look so different with the same label. So seeing that he does not have many of the symptoms still may not rule it out. BUT there are certainly kids who simply have language delays, sensory issues and difficulties with transitions (like the constant hallway issues-very hard on kids with autism to go from one thing to another) without meeting criteria for Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). I have worked with numerous kids who were diagnosed ADHD, anxiety disorder and/or seemed slightly delayed or even gifted in early school years (with notes about sensory isses often scattered in the records) only to later be labeled Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD). Often the social issues are not as evident until social language demands increase in later years and the demands for more complex sharing and turn taking plus taking another child's perspective are required. I denied it in my own son and was actually working at an autism center at the time! It is a painful thing to consider for sure, but in the end for us it was the best thing to accept in our case. The strategies for teaching/learning and discipline are vastly different from kids who are having more general conduct issues (also legitimate but just can need different strategies). Hopefully each of these people on your assessment team will listen to you and your concerns during the evaluation. process and will spend enough time with your son to actually find out what will meet his needs in a more gentle, appropriate way. My son has a veiw of himself as "bad" because people actually tell him he is rude and he has been in situations where he has constant consequences. I protect him as much as I can but you are right to stand up for him. Welcome to the sp. needs. world...youre right, it is tiring but it is well worth it! [COLOR=lime][FONT=Tahoma]me: 47 yr old single adoptive mom to son (adopted at age 2) son/difficult child 14 yr old with autism, acquired brain injury (surgery at age 2 to remove blood filled mass leaving frontal and temporal lobe injury with overall mass effects), borderline cogntive delays, anxiety, adhd, temporal lobe seizures, attachment issues. Symptoms: severe anxeity and fight or flight responses, impulsive, verbal and physical aggression, social and communication issues. Loves watching sports, really desperately wants friends-not much of a clue though,smile...loves swimming and therapeutic horseback riding.[/FONT][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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