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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 403768" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>And they wonder WHY bullying is such a problem in schools today? omg<img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/emoticons/sigh.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":sigh:" title="sigh :sigh:" data-shortname=":sigh:" /></p><p></p><p>I certainly would not want to teach now days. I don't know how those who do manage to keep their sanity under the ridiculous rules and restraints that are now in place. If I were raising children again, they'd be home school via computer, they would not be sitting in a classroom, or in a private school setting that had normal rules/discipline. </p><p></p><p>The ever changing school curriculum and methods of teaching are bad enough. I thought helping my kids with homework was almost impossible......most especially math omg they had the stupidest ways of doing simple things.......but trying to help Darrin is out.....not a clue what the heck it is they're even trying to teach the kid. Kayla had issues with math and her and Travis sat down forever hunting on the internet to figure out how to do it. They finally found out, but c'mon! </p><p></p><p>This is lack of discipline completely. For now it's just the difficult children out of control because they can't help it. But it won't be long before the whole class follows suit because they see the difficult child kids don't get into any real trouble for doing the stuff they do.</p><p></p><p>I've had parents look at me in horror when I tell them I don't believe in integration or inclusion or whatever they call it now when a special needs child is placed in a normal class setting. In my day they called in mainstreaming. If a child is behaviorally and academically up to a normal classroom, then great, let them join. If not, then they should be placed in a classroom setting that would be more appropriate for them, because usually it's the normal setting that triggers some of the issues with difficult child kids. It's overwhelming for them. Or heck, let them mainstream for short periods or something that better suits their needs.</p><p></p><p>But in my opinion when they place a child with special needs into a classroom setting they are not capable of functioning in they are harming both the difficult child child as well as the other children. Because you're not going to convince me the difficult child child is going to learn as well or the reg kids are going to learn as well with that set up.</p><p></p><p>Parents were horrified I'd think that way due to Travis being disabled. Phht. I spent 4 yrs trying to get him into a special classroom because the normal classes were too overwhelming for him. Poor kid was drowning in sensory overload, had issues due to his poor vision.......and a half dozen other things. If it weren't for several awesome teachers who went above and beyond and then some........Travis would've been totally lost and would have learned nothing.</p><p></p><p>They use the excuse alot that these rules are in place to protect the children from possible abuse from teachers. Piffle. Travis was horrendously abused by a teacher (who had taught Special Education by the way) and I still think it's and outrageous philosophy.</p><p></p><p>In this classroom setting.........the children are in control. That is disturbing.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 403768, member: 84"] And they wonder WHY bullying is such a problem in schools today? omg:sigh: I certainly would not want to teach now days. I don't know how those who do manage to keep their sanity under the ridiculous rules and restraints that are now in place. If I were raising children again, they'd be home school via computer, they would not be sitting in a classroom, or in a private school setting that had normal rules/discipline. The ever changing school curriculum and methods of teaching are bad enough. I thought helping my kids with homework was almost impossible......most especially math omg they had the stupidest ways of doing simple things.......but trying to help Darrin is out.....not a clue what the heck it is they're even trying to teach the kid. Kayla had issues with math and her and Travis sat down forever hunting on the internet to figure out how to do it. They finally found out, but c'mon! This is lack of discipline completely. For now it's just the difficult children out of control because they can't help it. But it won't be long before the whole class follows suit because they see the difficult child kids don't get into any real trouble for doing the stuff they do. I've had parents look at me in horror when I tell them I don't believe in integration or inclusion or whatever they call it now when a special needs child is placed in a normal class setting. In my day they called in mainstreaming. If a child is behaviorally and academically up to a normal classroom, then great, let them join. If not, then they should be placed in a classroom setting that would be more appropriate for them, because usually it's the normal setting that triggers some of the issues with difficult child kids. It's overwhelming for them. Or heck, let them mainstream for short periods or something that better suits their needs. But in my opinion when they place a child with special needs into a classroom setting they are not capable of functioning in they are harming both the difficult child child as well as the other children. Because you're not going to convince me the difficult child child is going to learn as well or the reg kids are going to learn as well with that set up. Parents were horrified I'd think that way due to Travis being disabled. Phht. I spent 4 yrs trying to get him into a special classroom because the normal classes were too overwhelming for him. Poor kid was drowning in sensory overload, had issues due to his poor vision.......and a half dozen other things. If it weren't for several awesome teachers who went above and beyond and then some........Travis would've been totally lost and would have learned nothing. They use the excuse alot that these rules are in place to protect the children from possible abuse from teachers. Piffle. Travis was horrendously abused by a teacher (who had taught Special Education by the way) and I still think it's and outrageous philosophy. In this classroom setting.........the children are in control. That is disturbing. [/QUOTE]
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