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<blockquote data-quote="Star*" data-source="post: 358392" data-attributes="member: 4964"><p>Hi Nomad - </p><p> </p><p>I have insulin resistance, and glucose intolerance. I am what is considered borderline diabetic. When I went to my doctor I had always been a healthy 135-150 lbs and easily fit into a 5-6, to a 9-10 and looked very svelte. I had an athletic build, and being somewhat tall, I hid the few extra pounds very well. So imagine my surprise when I started packing on pound after pound. Nearly an extra person to be precise. I went from a healthy 135ish to 290 in a matter of 6-8 months. It was unimaginable. My clothes went from sizes 5-6, to 22-24. NO ONE could tell me what was wrong. EVERYONE told me I was sneaking food. I spent most of my time hiding from everyone, in tears and miserable, moody and starving myself; which did no good. I kept diet diaries, I did Weight Watchers and gained 22 lbs. I tried to exercise and thought I was going to have a heart attack. I was overwhelmed. I saw specialists who put me through tests over the last six years that you can not imagine. I had diagnoses' thrown at me that scared me so badly I literally made out a living will, DNR, got term life insurance. Among the scariest were scleroderma, brain tumors, lupus (which takes years to diagnose), Wilsons disease which I think has something to do with heavy metals or copper or something. I was told I had to get a COMPLETE hysterectomy and even went for a pre-surgical consultation and almost did it until I found out how much, how long, and realized I couldn't afford it. I was told I had Poly cystic Ovarian Syndrome. I'm sure there were other things the doctors had tried to rule out but I finally got to the point where I said "Just don't tell' me the more I checked on line the more worried and anxiety ridden I became.</p><p> </p><p>This went on with specialists, second opinions, third opinions, endocrinologists, psychiatrists, dietitians and finally after I was with an MD that had me on about 12 pills a day for things that just seemed redundant? I switched doctors and thought I had finally found a man that cared, only to get the 'uh huh' man and said something off the wall - and he said 'uh huh' and in tears I picked up my list of troubles (carefully written out hoping he would see a connection in my symptoms and pinpoint my problem) and left in the middle of the exam very angry and crying. To know me is to know - I do not cry easily. I was walking down the hall and just happened to pass a Nurse Practitioner who grabbed my arm and asked what was wrong. I told her No one cared. Six years I've been begging for help....I'm a healthy person trapped in THIS nearly 300 lb. body and I'm sick to death of being uh huh'd. So she took me into a room and talked to me and listened to me for nearly 45 minutes. </p><p> </p><p>She asked me questions, went and got my list from Dr. Uh Huh. The things she asked? Were spot on with how I felt, how I woke up, how I was out of breath, my swollen ankles, my thinning hair nearly bald on top, my facial hair like women need a moustache -pft, like being irritable so far beyond PMS you think you could be locked up or harm someone, having super colossal periods that can keep you out of work 1-2 days and in bed, Rosacea on my face - I mean WHAT is this now? No matter what I use my face is blood red and lumpy, I'm ALWAYS exhausted. I could get 52 hours of sleep and I'm exhausted, I'm foggy, can't concentrate, hypersensitive more than usual to sounds, smells, people in general, short tempered, I get frustrated very easily over silly stuff, my bones hurt, my joints hurt, I can't loose weight no matter what I do, my right foot is always swollen like a foot ball and no matter if I prop it up? It's stays swollen. My vision has gone up 2+ points....I'm guessing my next glasses exam they're going to offere me a scholarship to the braille institute and/or a seeing eye dog. I have migraines constantly - non stop. Have for months. </p><p> </p><p>So with that she says.....Okay here's what I want you to do. And I will preface this for ANYONE in your shoes because I am living proof that it works and if you do what she says to the letter - there have been NO failures. NONE. But if you cheat, stretch it....try to wedge your lifestyle back into it? You won't loose weight. Period. I started at 290 something. Friday I got weighed and I was 179. I started this in September. My waist was 52" and now it's 37". I have pictures and proof. My doctor saw me Friday and said I look 10 years younger and is very proud of my success. I have not cheated once. There are three basic principals to her lifestyle change and it is a lifestyle CHANGE NOT a diet. It has to be a change because if you are borderline diabetic? You are going to be that way for life. So your lifestyle HAS to change for life. The minute you stop eating the new way? Your weight will come back and so will all the other health problems. GUARANTEED. </p><p> </p><p>My hair is growing in and getting longer. I did try using Rogaine...but it dried out my hair and turned it ashy....so I stopped. On women? It does not regrow hair - It just maintains what you have. On men? It does regrow hair. Everyone things once you stop using it your hair will fall out - thats a lie. Once you stop using it - you just stop using it. I asked my dermatologist. So if you have been tempted? You go right ahead. You have to use it for six months before you see any results. Women CAN use the mens strenght which is stronger, but if your hair gets dried out or brittle? You may want to go back to using the womens strenght. Using more than is prescribed (twice a day) is not going to help. It's absorbed through the skin into the blood stream. Basically it's high blood pressure medicine. Oh and by the way - if it grows hair on your face ladies? You can either stop or shave....(little hair humore there) </p><p> </p><p>Now as for the three basic RULES to the NEW WAY OF LIFE? </p><p>FIRST......HIGHLY RECOMMEND asking your doctor for a FASTING GLUCOSE TOLERANCE TEST. I Did a Four hour one. (ugh) </p><p>This is a really accurate way for the lab to get results to your doctor to see how your body is processing sugar. </p><p>IF your test results show that you have glucose intolerance? This NWOL is FOR YOU and WILL DROP about 1-2 lbs a week...or rather than use an ugly old lying unreliable scale - just toss that sucker out and use your clothes as a guide. ALSO....familarize yourself with either a smaller size friends closet for borrow-zies or a second hand store - because once you start loosing? You're going to go through clothes so fast? You won't want to buy things for your 'forever' wardobe until you really attain your goal size. See I say size not weight - this isn't about weight .....it's about feeling good, and looking good. </p><p> </p><p>Oh yeah -----three principals of this </p><p>1.) YOU MUST EAT BREAKFAST (RELIGIOUSLY) LUNCH (RELIGIOUSLY) DINNER (RELIGIOUSLY) </p><p>2.) YOU MUST EAT 2 SNACKS EVERY DAY (10:00) and (2:00) </p><p>3.) YOU MUST NOT EAT ANYTHING AFTER 7:00 PM. (THIS IS DIRE) </p><p> </p><p>Why not eat anything after 7:00? Well...it's kinda like this. After a certain age -(over 30) the body needs time to work and put things where they go. Sort of like a secretary in a busy office with an in basket. All day long people come into her office (like food in your body) and dump things on her desk. She's only one person and can only do so much with the work load but she has a boss that wants that desk cleared by the time he leaves at 5:30. So instead of putting the files and work where they really need to go - she starts shoving stuff anywhere just to clear off her desk. Kinda like you eating after 7:00....whatever you eat after 7:00 the body is not being given enough time to process the sugars and put where they need to go - so it basically starts shoving it in spots and most of those become fat. (In some twisted theory) The adult bodies organs need about 12 hours to process all the food you have eaten all day ----so that it has some down time to clean up your internal office and get ready for the food you're going to send down tomorrow. Something kinda like that - If you don't give your body time to process what you eat? You're just shoving more work down the hatchet .....and it can't keep up with the work load - PLUS....you probably have been eating the wrong stuff anyway, AND not giving it enough fuel to do the work because you skip meals and don't snack to give it a boost to get through to the next big meal. Going without food is not good. Eating MORE will cause you to loose weight. </p><p> </p><p>YUP -----knocked my sock snob socks right off my tootsies too - EATING MORE _ is the KEY to loosing weight. I thought - ARE YOU NUTS doctor? She said - "WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOOSE?" Everything else you have tried has failed? Give it one month. So I did. I thought well this should be impossible. Then she told me what I could eat. Ahhhhh....HA! </p><p> </p><p>So here's the assignment - </p><p> </p><p>1600 calories give or take but don't get crazy - and it's not really that hard BECAUSE.....you are NOW going on a SUGAR free to LOW sugar diet. If you truly are glucose intolerant the ONLY way you are EVER EVER going to loose weight is by cutting out sweets and lowering calories. </p><p> </p><p>ANYTHING you eat -----that has more than 8 grams of sugar in it PER SERVING IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!!!! NOT. FOR. YOU. </p><p> </p><p>Yogurt? Yeah - well check the lable......HIGH IN SUGAR. Activa in the little green container - has 8g. Thats the only one. </p><p>Jello - Comes sugar free in a variety of flavors</p><p>Jello- Pudding - sugar free --mmmm </p><p>Sugar free cool whip and Redi whip - is fairly low in sugar</p><p>Animal crackers by stauffer</p><p> </p><p>Most Snack crackers are under 100 calories per serving - 100-130 c and low in sugar </p><p>Baked Lays - 15 crisps...low in sugar</p><p> </p><p>Start having FROZEN vegetables - canned veggies are high in sugar</p><p> </p><p>Fresh meat - grilled ----fry as little as possible </p><p> </p><p>Crystal lite - Diet Dew, Coke Zero, Diet Coke, (most diet drinks are zero sugar)</p><p> </p><p>1% milk or soy milk...(again check the sugar) </p><p> </p><p>Bread - Eat the 45% calorie reduced wheat - </p><p> </p><p>Wheat pasta - much better for you anyway </p><p> </p><p>Aunt Jemima Frozen French Toast, Waffles -</p><p>Take 1 bottle sugar free syrup/ 1 bottle of regular syrup mix 1/2 & 1/2 </p><p> </p><p>Splenda blend instead of sugar </p><p> </p><p>Cereal?? Cheerios, Multigrain Cheerios, Bran (raisin bran? ULTRA HIGH IN SUGAR) </p><p> </p><p>Oatmeal is excellent, cream of wheat, Farina</p><p> </p><p>Peanut butter (excellent - again watch the sugar) </p><p> </p><p>Welches makes a reduced sugar grape or strawberry jam</p><p> </p><p>Orville redenbecker makes a 100 calorie pop corn - small bags - </p><p> </p><p>Grapes, oranges, pears, apples, celery, carrots - all good in moderation</p><p> </p><p>Baked potato on occasion</p><p> </p><p>Any fresh steamed veggie </p><p>(nom nom nom) </p><p>Keep in mind - 1 Tsp of margarine has 70 calories in it....(i know 70 ugh) </p><p> </p><p>Drink as much water as you like.....you can find all flavors of crystal light knock offs at walmart - apple is delicious) </p><p> </p><p>Lunchmeat, cheeses, - great. </p><p> </p><p>Hunts makes pudding and jello cups. Sugar free. </p><p> </p><p>Most anything baked snack wise is okay - the rest of the potato chips and pretzels? Not so good for you - </p><p> </p><p>Just keep in mind - portion size is the size of your fist. </p><p>Use a plate that isn't gigantic....if you have none - find a smaller one .....gives the illusion you are heaping it on. </p><p>Drink fluids.....make it fun....with ice, fun straws.....new cups, coolers. </p><p> </p><p>Booze, wine, beer, mixed drinks - are out - HIGH IN SUGAR. Window food, fast food? OUT. 1st off its junk. 2nd of all it's way too tempting to say "Well I'll just this once, or sneak one, two three fries, with ketchup." If you must eat out have something that is conducive to your way of living. Make sure you know where you are going 1st. </p><p> </p><p>Coffee? Okay - take your splenda blend in a baggie at all times - Cream? I use 1/2 and 1/2....it's my evil. </p><p> </p><p>Exercise? This is where I think I could have done better. I didn't. I just felt better and walked a lot more. A LOT. I did more things .....parked at the farthest point in a store parking lot. Had more stamina. I did get a bike and rode it once or twice but OH Momma what it did to my......(another story). </p><p> </p><p>Make sure you have fish at least once a week. Try to avoid things like bagles, muffins. Orange juice? Even sugar reduced is too high in sugar. Sugar free is nasty but you may like it. </p><p> </p><p>Don't tell yourself I can't. because of work. Pack a lunch, pack a snack. </p><p> </p><p>I took grapes in a baggie for my 10:00 snack, or crackers. I did frozen french toast (2) slices for bkfast, with coffee. weight watchers for lunch, I had a pudding for dessert, I did animal crackers or a Kellogs fruit crisp, or Nutrigrain bar, or animal crackers for my after noon snack and then a regular supper. </p><p> </p><p>Just remember - This all depends on you getting with your doctor and having a glucose tolerance test FIRST. </p><p> </p><p>Reason being is that if you are? HE / SHE will probably put you on a diabetes preventative called Metformin. It helps balance your sugar AND somewhat curbs your appetite. After you get your weight under control? Maybe in a year I can completely go off it. (Goal) I take 1 a day. I also take Topamax 2x a day for the migraines which I am told helps with the appetite supressant as well....but I got a mantra from one of the girls here -----that I would say to myself EVERY time I thought I would cheat and it stuck in my head......</p><p>NOTHING TASTES AS GOOD AS THIN FEELS.......and it is SOOOOOOooooooo true. </p><p> </p><p>Hope this helps ya'll out. </p><p> </p><p>My Mom has been doing it for 2 months and has already lost 12 lbs. ----First month you really don't see much results - 2nd month middle to end is when it all starts to happen. Then just look out. </p><p> </p><p>Hugs, Love and Loss....</p><p>Star</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Star*, post: 358392, member: 4964"] Hi Nomad - I have insulin resistance, and glucose intolerance. I am what is considered borderline diabetic. When I went to my doctor I had always been a healthy 135-150 lbs and easily fit into a 5-6, to a 9-10 and looked very svelte. I had an athletic build, and being somewhat tall, I hid the few extra pounds very well. So imagine my surprise when I started packing on pound after pound. Nearly an extra person to be precise. I went from a healthy 135ish to 290 in a matter of 6-8 months. It was unimaginable. My clothes went from sizes 5-6, to 22-24. NO ONE could tell me what was wrong. EVERYONE told me I was sneaking food. I spent most of my time hiding from everyone, in tears and miserable, moody and starving myself; which did no good. I kept diet diaries, I did Weight Watchers and gained 22 lbs. I tried to exercise and thought I was going to have a heart attack. I was overwhelmed. I saw specialists who put me through tests over the last six years that you can not imagine. I had diagnoses' thrown at me that scared me so badly I literally made out a living will, DNR, got term life insurance. Among the scariest were scleroderma, brain tumors, lupus (which takes years to diagnose), Wilsons disease which I think has something to do with heavy metals or copper or something. I was told I had to get a COMPLETE hysterectomy and even went for a pre-surgical consultation and almost did it until I found out how much, how long, and realized I couldn't afford it. I was told I had Poly cystic Ovarian Syndrome. I'm sure there were other things the doctors had tried to rule out but I finally got to the point where I said "Just don't tell' me the more I checked on line the more worried and anxiety ridden I became. This went on with specialists, second opinions, third opinions, endocrinologists, psychiatrists, dietitians and finally after I was with an MD that had me on about 12 pills a day for things that just seemed redundant? I switched doctors and thought I had finally found a man that cared, only to get the 'uh huh' man and said something off the wall - and he said 'uh huh' and in tears I picked up my list of troubles (carefully written out hoping he would see a connection in my symptoms and pinpoint my problem) and left in the middle of the exam very angry and crying. To know me is to know - I do not cry easily. I was walking down the hall and just happened to pass a Nurse Practitioner who grabbed my arm and asked what was wrong. I told her No one cared. Six years I've been begging for help....I'm a healthy person trapped in THIS nearly 300 lb. body and I'm sick to death of being uh huh'd. So she took me into a room and talked to me and listened to me for nearly 45 minutes. She asked me questions, went and got my list from Dr. Uh Huh. The things she asked? Were spot on with how I felt, how I woke up, how I was out of breath, my swollen ankles, my thinning hair nearly bald on top, my facial hair like women need a moustache -pft, like being irritable so far beyond PMS you think you could be locked up or harm someone, having super colossal periods that can keep you out of work 1-2 days and in bed, Rosacea on my face - I mean WHAT is this now? No matter what I use my face is blood red and lumpy, I'm ALWAYS exhausted. I could get 52 hours of sleep and I'm exhausted, I'm foggy, can't concentrate, hypersensitive more than usual to sounds, smells, people in general, short tempered, I get frustrated very easily over silly stuff, my bones hurt, my joints hurt, I can't loose weight no matter what I do, my right foot is always swollen like a foot ball and no matter if I prop it up? It's stays swollen. My vision has gone up 2+ points....I'm guessing my next glasses exam they're going to offere me a scholarship to the braille institute and/or a seeing eye dog. I have migraines constantly - non stop. Have for months. So with that she says.....Okay here's what I want you to do. And I will preface this for ANYONE in your shoes because I am living proof that it works and if you do what she says to the letter - there have been NO failures. NONE. But if you cheat, stretch it....try to wedge your lifestyle back into it? You won't loose weight. Period. I started at 290 something. Friday I got weighed and I was 179. I started this in September. My waist was 52" and now it's 37". I have pictures and proof. My doctor saw me Friday and said I look 10 years younger and is very proud of my success. I have not cheated once. There are three basic principals to her lifestyle change and it is a lifestyle CHANGE NOT a diet. It has to be a change because if you are borderline diabetic? You are going to be that way for life. So your lifestyle HAS to change for life. The minute you stop eating the new way? Your weight will come back and so will all the other health problems. GUARANTEED. My hair is growing in and getting longer. I did try using Rogaine...but it dried out my hair and turned it ashy....so I stopped. On women? It does not regrow hair - It just maintains what you have. On men? It does regrow hair. Everyone things once you stop using it your hair will fall out - thats a lie. Once you stop using it - you just stop using it. I asked my dermatologist. So if you have been tempted? You go right ahead. You have to use it for six months before you see any results. Women CAN use the mens strenght which is stronger, but if your hair gets dried out or brittle? You may want to go back to using the womens strenght. Using more than is prescribed (twice a day) is not going to help. It's absorbed through the skin into the blood stream. Basically it's high blood pressure medicine. Oh and by the way - if it grows hair on your face ladies? You can either stop or shave....(little hair humore there) Now as for the three basic RULES to the NEW WAY OF LIFE? FIRST......HIGHLY RECOMMEND asking your doctor for a FASTING GLUCOSE TOLERANCE TEST. I Did a Four hour one. (ugh) This is a really accurate way for the lab to get results to your doctor to see how your body is processing sugar. IF your test results show that you have glucose intolerance? This NWOL is FOR YOU and WILL DROP about 1-2 lbs a week...or rather than use an ugly old lying unreliable scale - just toss that sucker out and use your clothes as a guide. ALSO....familarize yourself with either a smaller size friends closet for borrow-zies or a second hand store - because once you start loosing? You're going to go through clothes so fast? You won't want to buy things for your 'forever' wardobe until you really attain your goal size. See I say size not weight - this isn't about weight .....it's about feeling good, and looking good. Oh yeah -----three principals of this 1.) YOU MUST EAT BREAKFAST (RELIGIOUSLY) LUNCH (RELIGIOUSLY) DINNER (RELIGIOUSLY) 2.) YOU MUST EAT 2 SNACKS EVERY DAY (10:00) and (2:00) 3.) YOU MUST NOT EAT ANYTHING AFTER 7:00 PM. (THIS IS DIRE) Why not eat anything after 7:00? Well...it's kinda like this. After a certain age -(over 30) the body needs time to work and put things where they go. Sort of like a secretary in a busy office with an in basket. All day long people come into her office (like food in your body) and dump things on her desk. She's only one person and can only do so much with the work load but she has a boss that wants that desk cleared by the time he leaves at 5:30. So instead of putting the files and work where they really need to go - she starts shoving stuff anywhere just to clear off her desk. Kinda like you eating after 7:00....whatever you eat after 7:00 the body is not being given enough time to process the sugars and put where they need to go - so it basically starts shoving it in spots and most of those become fat. (In some twisted theory) The adult bodies organs need about 12 hours to process all the food you have eaten all day ----so that it has some down time to clean up your internal office and get ready for the food you're going to send down tomorrow. Something kinda like that - If you don't give your body time to process what you eat? You're just shoving more work down the hatchet .....and it can't keep up with the work load - PLUS....you probably have been eating the wrong stuff anyway, AND not giving it enough fuel to do the work because you skip meals and don't snack to give it a boost to get through to the next big meal. Going without food is not good. Eating MORE will cause you to loose weight. YUP -----knocked my sock snob socks right off my tootsies too - EATING MORE _ is the KEY to loosing weight. I thought - ARE YOU NUTS doctor? She said - "WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO LOOSE?" Everything else you have tried has failed? Give it one month. So I did. I thought well this should be impossible. Then she told me what I could eat. Ahhhhh....HA! So here's the assignment - 1600 calories give or take but don't get crazy - and it's not really that hard BECAUSE.....you are NOW going on a SUGAR free to LOW sugar diet. If you truly are glucose intolerant the ONLY way you are EVER EVER going to loose weight is by cutting out sweets and lowering calories. ANYTHING you eat -----that has more than 8 grams of sugar in it PER SERVING IS NOT YOUR FRIEND!!!!!!! NOT. FOR. YOU. Yogurt? Yeah - well check the lable......HIGH IN SUGAR. Activa in the little green container - has 8g. Thats the only one. Jello - Comes sugar free in a variety of flavors Jello- Pudding - sugar free --mmmm Sugar free cool whip and Redi whip - is fairly low in sugar Animal crackers by stauffer Most Snack crackers are under 100 calories per serving - 100-130 c and low in sugar Baked Lays - 15 crisps...low in sugar Start having FROZEN vegetables - canned veggies are high in sugar Fresh meat - grilled ----fry as little as possible Crystal lite - Diet Dew, Coke Zero, Diet Coke, (most diet drinks are zero sugar) 1% milk or soy milk...(again check the sugar) Bread - Eat the 45% calorie reduced wheat - Wheat pasta - much better for you anyway Aunt Jemima Frozen French Toast, Waffles - Take 1 bottle sugar free syrup/ 1 bottle of regular syrup mix 1/2 & 1/2 Splenda blend instead of sugar Cereal?? Cheerios, Multigrain Cheerios, Bran (raisin bran? ULTRA HIGH IN SUGAR) Oatmeal is excellent, cream of wheat, Farina Peanut butter (excellent - again watch the sugar) Welches makes a reduced sugar grape or strawberry jam Orville redenbecker makes a 100 calorie pop corn - small bags - Grapes, oranges, pears, apples, celery, carrots - all good in moderation Baked potato on occasion Any fresh steamed veggie (nom nom nom) Keep in mind - 1 Tsp of margarine has 70 calories in it....(i know 70 ugh) Drink as much water as you like.....you can find all flavors of crystal light knock offs at walmart - apple is delicious) Lunchmeat, cheeses, - great. Hunts makes pudding and jello cups. Sugar free. Most anything baked snack wise is okay - the rest of the potato chips and pretzels? Not so good for you - Just keep in mind - portion size is the size of your fist. Use a plate that isn't gigantic....if you have none - find a smaller one .....gives the illusion you are heaping it on. Drink fluids.....make it fun....with ice, fun straws.....new cups, coolers. Booze, wine, beer, mixed drinks - are out - HIGH IN SUGAR. Window food, fast food? OUT. 1st off its junk. 2nd of all it's way too tempting to say "Well I'll just this once, or sneak one, two three fries, with ketchup." If you must eat out have something that is conducive to your way of living. Make sure you know where you are going 1st. Coffee? Okay - take your splenda blend in a baggie at all times - Cream? I use 1/2 and 1/2....it's my evil. Exercise? This is where I think I could have done better. I didn't. I just felt better and walked a lot more. A LOT. I did more things .....parked at the farthest point in a store parking lot. Had more stamina. I did get a bike and rode it once or twice but OH Momma what it did to my......(another story). Make sure you have fish at least once a week. Try to avoid things like bagles, muffins. Orange juice? Even sugar reduced is too high in sugar. Sugar free is nasty but you may like it. Don't tell yourself I can't. because of work. Pack a lunch, pack a snack. I took grapes in a baggie for my 10:00 snack, or crackers. I did frozen french toast (2) slices for bkfast, with coffee. weight watchers for lunch, I had a pudding for dessert, I did animal crackers or a Kellogs fruit crisp, or Nutrigrain bar, or animal crackers for my after noon snack and then a regular supper. Just remember - This all depends on you getting with your doctor and having a glucose tolerance test FIRST. Reason being is that if you are? HE / SHE will probably put you on a diabetes preventative called Metformin. It helps balance your sugar AND somewhat curbs your appetite. After you get your weight under control? Maybe in a year I can completely go off it. (Goal) I take 1 a day. I also take Topamax 2x a day for the migraines which I am told helps with the appetite supressant as well....but I got a mantra from one of the girls here -----that I would say to myself EVERY time I thought I would cheat and it stuck in my head...... NOTHING TASTES AS GOOD AS THIN FEELS.......and it is SOOOOOOooooooo true. Hope this helps ya'll out. My Mom has been doing it for 2 months and has already lost 12 lbs. ----First month you really don't see much results - 2nd month middle to end is when it all starts to happen. Then just look out. Hugs, Love and Loss.... Star [/QUOTE]
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