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Thank you very much, New Leaf.


:O)


I love it that he said we can respond consciously or compulsively, and that we determine that.  Why doesn't matter. They are doing what they like to do.  


I love that. 


That's the why.  What is the win?  That is what doesn't matter.  For me, as I come into balance around everything to do with FOO, that is a good answer:  They are doing what they like to do


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Consciously for me, would be another way of saying "to see through our own eyes". 


Compulsively would have to do with understanding ourselves and our experience through anyone's eyes but our own. 


They are doing what they like.  They have always done what they liked to do.  That is why they did it, and ultimately, that is why they do it now.  Nothing personal. 


My decision is and has always been, to do something other than what they like to do.


Again, nothing personal.


Very freeing, to see in this way.


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I am forever ferreting out the why in things.  But the person in the video is entirely correct.  Whatever it is that is happening, they are doing what they like to do.  


Nothing personal.


The speaker asked whether the questioner was being physically tortured.  I wonder what his thinking would be regarding the ongoing trauma in the shunning dynamic.  The torture of the shunning dynamic is not physical.  The pain in it has to do with what I want and do not have. Which the speaker also addressed.  The correct conclusion then would be that the pain I experience has to do with my interpretation of my situation.


The one thing in my control.


Frankl's concept, and Etty's and Maya's too, are the same.


Thank you, Leafy. 


Cedar


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