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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 129294" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>SLSH - spot on. All kudos to the kid, as long as he was quiet and polite. That teacher sounds like about half the teachers at our local school, who WOULD NOT take kindly to such a reminder in front of the other kids, and who would designate it as "rude" merely for being told publicly they had made a mistake.</p><p></p><p>And in the middle of a test, too. I had a teacher do that to me once (years ago, when it was far more common for teachers to act like the Almighty and treat students like dirt) and my mother went to the school to sort it out with the teacher. No mean feat for her - it was a two hour round trip by public transport.</p><p></p><p>I think it's good for a difficult child to know what they are entitled to, as long as they don't get pushy about it. And if a student is accused of misdemeanour which has arisen from a teacher's mistake (or some other infraction against the student) I do not feel the student should be penalised. For example, if a police officer tried to rape you and you resisted, would he be able to make a charge of "resisting an arrest" stick, if it turned out that the charges against you were in fact nonexistent and you knew at the time that it was only a ruse? (as long as you could prove your case, of course). It wouldn't here, anyway.</p><p></p><p>As for a difficult child having 'perks' not available to others - I can see how use of calculator could be a tricky one to manage, but depending on what the perks are, it can be done. difficult child 3 was permitted to have a Discman with headphones in the classroom for him to listen to when the teacher assigned bookwork. We were getting desperate in trying to find ways to drown out all the little classroom noises which were such a total distraction and annoyance for him. And when the other kids wanted to know why THEY couldn't also bring in a Discman, the teacher explained that the only music permitted was Easy Listening/Classical, with no lyrics. Booooring... difficult child 3 was asked to let kids listen, if they didn't believe it. After that there were no more requests. Plus the kids all knew about difficult child 3's autism. Bleedin' obvious, among other things.</p><p></p><p>Years ago when easy child 2/difficult child 2 & easy child were studying singing in a major Aussie choir, they were sent on choir camp to get ready for a major concert. The different branches of the choir were all mixed in together on this camp - several hundred kids, with easy child 2/difficult child 2 being the youngest. She was also very bright, but very literal-minded. </p><p>One class was being taken by the conductor of another choir, with our group's choir mistress sitting in. The class teacher said to the kids, "Stop your workbooks for the moment, I want to rehearse that song for the next half hour. We will get back to the workbooks before lunch, I promise. Someone remind me if I forget."</p><p>The song rehearsal went longer than expected and the teacher, after half an hour, was interrupted by easy child 2/difficult child 2. "Excuse me miss, you said to remind you that we were to get back to our workbooks before lunch."</p><p>The teacher just looked at her and said witheringly, "And WHO are YOU?" before totally ignoring her. easy child 2/difficult child 2 has always been incredibly sensitive - she had thought she was doing as she was told and got into big trouble for it. Our conductor tried to calm her down over lunch, but she was very upset and very unresponsive for the rest of camp. I heard this story from the girls' conductor herself, as we collected the kids. She felt I needed to know, as she could see that easy child 2/difficult child 2 was still upset about it.</p><p></p><p>We did talk it over with easy child 2/difficult child 2, explained that she HAD done the right thing but some people do not like to be publicly corrected by a little child, even if they have apparently invited it. We warned her that this sort of thing would happen again but to not take it personally, it shows a lack in the other person's graciousness and also provides a warning to in future treat those people with the utmost respect almost to the point of grovelling, regardless of the justice of the situation. "It's not fair, it's just how it is sometimes," we told her. "Practice this now and you will be able to work with the most difficult people later in life. You could even get a career in diplomacy."</p><p></p><p>Somehow I doubt she'll ever be a diplomat, but she has learnt to take this sort of thing when fighting it is pointless. She just rages about it later, and will not work for such a person if she can avoid it.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 129294, member: 1991"] SLSH - spot on. All kudos to the kid, as long as he was quiet and polite. That teacher sounds like about half the teachers at our local school, who WOULD NOT take kindly to such a reminder in front of the other kids, and who would designate it as "rude" merely for being told publicly they had made a mistake. And in the middle of a test, too. I had a teacher do that to me once (years ago, when it was far more common for teachers to act like the Almighty and treat students like dirt) and my mother went to the school to sort it out with the teacher. No mean feat for her - it was a two hour round trip by public transport. I think it's good for a difficult child to know what they are entitled to, as long as they don't get pushy about it. And if a student is accused of misdemeanour which has arisen from a teacher's mistake (or some other infraction against the student) I do not feel the student should be penalised. For example, if a police officer tried to rape you and you resisted, would he be able to make a charge of "resisting an arrest" stick, if it turned out that the charges against you were in fact nonexistent and you knew at the time that it was only a ruse? (as long as you could prove your case, of course). It wouldn't here, anyway. As for a difficult child having 'perks' not available to others - I can see how use of calculator could be a tricky one to manage, but depending on what the perks are, it can be done. difficult child 3 was permitted to have a Discman with headphones in the classroom for him to listen to when the teacher assigned bookwork. We were getting desperate in trying to find ways to drown out all the little classroom noises which were such a total distraction and annoyance for him. And when the other kids wanted to know why THEY couldn't also bring in a Discman, the teacher explained that the only music permitted was Easy Listening/Classical, with no lyrics. Booooring... difficult child 3 was asked to let kids listen, if they didn't believe it. After that there were no more requests. Plus the kids all knew about difficult child 3's autism. Bleedin' obvious, among other things. Years ago when easy child 2/difficult child 2 & easy child were studying singing in a major Aussie choir, they were sent on choir camp to get ready for a major concert. The different branches of the choir were all mixed in together on this camp - several hundred kids, with easy child 2/difficult child 2 being the youngest. She was also very bright, but very literal-minded. One class was being taken by the conductor of another choir, with our group's choir mistress sitting in. The class teacher said to the kids, "Stop your workbooks for the moment, I want to rehearse that song for the next half hour. We will get back to the workbooks before lunch, I promise. Someone remind me if I forget." The song rehearsal went longer than expected and the teacher, after half an hour, was interrupted by easy child 2/difficult child 2. "Excuse me miss, you said to remind you that we were to get back to our workbooks before lunch." The teacher just looked at her and said witheringly, "And WHO are YOU?" before totally ignoring her. easy child 2/difficult child 2 has always been incredibly sensitive - she had thought she was doing as she was told and got into big trouble for it. Our conductor tried to calm her down over lunch, but she was very upset and very unresponsive for the rest of camp. I heard this story from the girls' conductor herself, as we collected the kids. She felt I needed to know, as she could see that easy child 2/difficult child 2 was still upset about it. We did talk it over with easy child 2/difficult child 2, explained that she HAD done the right thing but some people do not like to be publicly corrected by a little child, even if they have apparently invited it. We warned her that this sort of thing would happen again but to not take it personally, it shows a lack in the other person's graciousness and also provides a warning to in future treat those people with the utmost respect almost to the point of grovelling, regardless of the justice of the situation. "It's not fair, it's just how it is sometimes," we told her. "Practice this now and you will be able to work with the most difficult people later in life. You could even get a career in diplomacy." Somehow I doubt she'll ever be a diplomat, but she has learnt to take this sort of thing when fighting it is pointless. She just rages about it later, and will not work for such a person if she can avoid it. Marg [/QUOTE]
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