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<blockquote data-quote="shutterbunny" data-source="post: 32541" data-attributes="member: 3568"><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: totoro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was going to say read the book as well... we try to pull any violent movies as well. But our difficult child is basically unable to watch them and we don't have cable either... so when she started perseverating on death last year it was scary as well...</p><p></p><p>I think the thing that helped a bit for me to understand a lot was in the Bipolar Child they explain about the Night Terrors and how they can indeed come out when the children are awake... so even if you keep everything from your kid regarding death or anything morbid, it is still somewhere in them to just naturally think this way and it come out in there night terrors and then they relive it once they are awake... It resurfaces so to speak...</p><p></p><p>My difficult child has been obsessed with tying things up, the Mommy and Daddy dying, the mean people, the people hurting her, her being abandoned, things always getting hurt and bleeding a lot!!! since she was little. We never put these thoughts into her head... she never had playdates... she never watched those kinds of things, but she did have horiffic night terrors... and a weird imagination. </p><p></p><p>I really think you can only do such much and it is going to come out on it own, obviously you don't want to add to it... we try to change the story and make them "nicer"... but she always goes back to the depressing morbid ones!!!</p><p></p><p>Last fall she did start saying she wanted to die and that was on a whole other level and that was also when she started having auditory hallucinations worsen, and her violence and rages increased, she would go on for over an hour screaming "please Mommy just kill me, I want to die, just let me die" </p><p>Her doctor's said don't worry about it!!! While I don't think she really wanted to die, I do think she needed help!!! Which is when I really had to fight for some help here. That was also when I got out the video camara turned off the beeps etc, and used the remote to turn it on, so I was able to put it up and turn it on when she didn't know. I was able to record some of those moments... She also felt she needed to kill us during that time... this was all pre-medications. Now that we have her medicated the talk of her dieing has all but stopped, one or 2 times... she is still very morbid and all of that. </p><p>I was just thinking about this topic this morning because we started with her toy puppy having his arm ripped off and the blood pouring everywhere.... (this was playing nice) I had to fix it... and put him to bed. No biggie... HA HA</p><p></p><p>Anyway good luck and when and if I figure it out I will let you know... But the book is great!!!</p><p>I just picked up "Bipolar Kids" and started reading it... I forget the Aurthor, but so far it is great also. Also "Parenting a Bipolar Child" By Faedda. </div></div></p><p></p><p>Tortoro,</p><p>thanks again for your reply, I will check out the books you mentioned...I read every sensory integration disorder book in print, I guess it is time to move on as his diagnosis has changed. Yes, same with my son, very vivid sort of morbid imagination...nightmares/night terrors and so on. I don't know how far his nightmares go (the book mentions BiPolar (BP) kids have dreams that don't "stop" where a non-BiPolar (BP) child's dream would normally stop, but I'm trying to find sensitive ways to get that information out of him). We also bought "Anger Mountain" and a book called..."Brandon and his Bipolar Bear" (think that's it) both of which we read yesterday and both were well received by by difficult child. I did call the neuropsychologist, we'll see if he returns the call (he's always been good with this!) and what he says. I think the thing that shocked me most was the "were on the earth before us" comment. This just seemed a little beyond his years and he said it so seriously and with complete conviction, not with any morbid overtone, but simply that he wanted to know who came before us. Except for telling the bus driver that he was old and needed to die I don't think he's ever turned it around to wanting anyone else to die...when he plays "the superhero" or "the good guy" or "the police man" he will say he's going to "kill the bad guys" but I'm not sure that this is out of the ordinary, extreme maybe, but like you said, they kind of just "go there."</p><p></p><p>Thanks again, I do appreciate your thoughts on the matter...I'll return the favor if I figure it out before you do.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="shutterbunny, post: 32541, member: 3568"] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: totoro</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I was going to say read the book as well... we try to pull any violent movies as well. But our difficult child is basically unable to watch them and we don't have cable either... so when she started perseverating on death last year it was scary as well... I think the thing that helped a bit for me to understand a lot was in the Bipolar Child they explain about the Night Terrors and how they can indeed come out when the children are awake... so even if you keep everything from your kid regarding death or anything morbid, it is still somewhere in them to just naturally think this way and it come out in there night terrors and then they relive it once they are awake... It resurfaces so to speak... My difficult child has been obsessed with tying things up, the Mommy and Daddy dying, the mean people, the people hurting her, her being abandoned, things always getting hurt and bleeding a lot!!! since she was little. We never put these thoughts into her head... she never had playdates... she never watched those kinds of things, but she did have horiffic night terrors... and a weird imagination. I really think you can only do such much and it is going to come out on it own, obviously you don't want to add to it... we try to change the story and make them "nicer"... but she always goes back to the depressing morbid ones!!! Last fall she did start saying she wanted to die and that was on a whole other level and that was also when she started having auditory hallucinations worsen, and her violence and rages increased, she would go on for over an hour screaming "please Mommy just kill me, I want to die, just let me die" Her doctor's said don't worry about it!!! While I don't think she really wanted to die, I do think she needed help!!! Which is when I really had to fight for some help here. That was also when I got out the video camara turned off the beeps etc, and used the remote to turn it on, so I was able to put it up and turn it on when she didn't know. I was able to record some of those moments... She also felt she needed to kill us during that time... this was all pre-medications. Now that we have her medicated the talk of her dieing has all but stopped, one or 2 times... she is still very morbid and all of that. I was just thinking about this topic this morning because we started with her toy puppy having his arm ripped off and the blood pouring everywhere.... (this was playing nice) I had to fix it... and put him to bed. No biggie... HA HA Anyway good luck and when and if I figure it out I will let you know... But the book is great!!! I just picked up "Bipolar Kids" and started reading it... I forget the Aurthor, but so far it is great also. Also "Parenting a Bipolar Child" By Faedda. </div></div> Tortoro, thanks again for your reply, I will check out the books you mentioned...I read every sensory integration disorder book in print, I guess it is time to move on as his diagnosis has changed. Yes, same with my son, very vivid sort of morbid imagination...nightmares/night terrors and so on. I don't know how far his nightmares go (the book mentions BiPolar (BP) kids have dreams that don't "stop" where a non-BiPolar (BP) child's dream would normally stop, but I'm trying to find sensitive ways to get that information out of him). We also bought "Anger Mountain" and a book called..."Brandon and his Bipolar Bear" (think that's it) both of which we read yesterday and both were well received by by difficult child. I did call the neuropsychologist, we'll see if he returns the call (he's always been good with this!) and what he says. I think the thing that shocked me most was the "were on the earth before us" comment. This just seemed a little beyond his years and he said it so seriously and with complete conviction, not with any morbid overtone, but simply that he wanted to know who came before us. Except for telling the bus driver that he was old and needed to die I don't think he's ever turned it around to wanting anyone else to die...when he plays "the superhero" or "the good guy" or "the police man" he will say he's going to "kill the bad guys" but I'm not sure that this is out of the ordinary, extreme maybe, but like you said, they kind of just "go there." Thanks again, I do appreciate your thoughts on the matter...I'll return the favor if I figure it out before you do. [/QUOTE]
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