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<blockquote data-quote="Janna" data-source="post: 88580" data-attributes="member: 2737"><p>Well, I think there are alot of misconceptions about what Bipolar looks like. In general, overall, at many places I go to speak to parents. Mainly, mania. That is in terms of Bipolar.</p><p></p><p>Many of the diagnosis have similar things, like ADHD, Bipolar, Autism kids are all hyper. Many/most are inattentive. Many have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) type tendencies. Many are self harmers (i.e. head banging).</p><p></p><p>I know why my son has been given the diagnosis'es he has over the years. When he was 3, and the psychiatrist at that time said ADHD, what he saw was a very hyper 3 1/2 year old boy, bouncing from activity to activity in his office, and gave me a script for Ritalin. The only thing Dylan was doing, at that point, was head banging. And he had the speech delay. Maybe that psychiatrist didn't know much about Autism. He was a much older man (late 60's, if not older). </p><p></p><p>I know why the psychiatrist in 2002 gave Dylan the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified diagnosis. Told me, go home and read up on it. I did. Some fit, some didn't.</p><p></p><p>In 2006 I took Dylan to a neuropsychologist. He said Dylan was Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD), for sure, 100%. Recommended Occupational Therapist (OT), the school said "nah, he doesn't need that", but he did, and I allowed the school to tell me he didn't, and didn't follow through. That won't happen again, and yes, he's getting it now. Anyway ~ the neuropsychologist said he didn't know what to make of the diagnosis of Bipolar. I took that report, the whole 21 pages, to the psychiatrist that said Bipolar, and he said "he's entitled to his opinion". He was firm Dylan was hypomanic. This psychiatrist says no.</p><p></p><p>I know parents that go on many message boards and talk and talk about how their kids are insane, crazed, raging, messes, and you'd think "oh my God, that sounds just like Bipolar". But until YOU are IN that HOUSE, seeing WHAT is leading UP TO the raging mess, you do NOT know anything about that child. I have friends who's kids are completely undisciplined, and they go to the psychiatrist and tell them they are firm, strict, rules, etc, basically lie, and the psychiatrist thinks the kid has massive issues, and really doesn't. </p><p></p><p>That, by the way, isn't directed at anyone here, or to imply anything about anyone here. Let me get that out of the way now. Remember, I run a Childhood Bipolar Support page on MySpace with almost 400 friends now. So, yeah, I talk to alot of people.</p><p></p><p>I feel comfortable with my son's current diagnosis because my son is under 24 hour a day, 7 day a week watch by 7 people on a team that he cannot get away from. The behavior mod is consistent, firm, strict, and there is nobody there that will give Dylan 2nd chances, or that he can manipulate, like any child would with a real parent. The staff do not have empathy.</p><p></p><p>Having said that, these people are seeing my son at his finest. Yes, many, many children honeymoon. Dylan is still honeymooning. It's getting to the point now he can't hold it together anymore. He punched a kid on Wednesday. The kid kept teasing him. He kept teasing him. Dylan gave him 3 chances. Finally, Dylan walked up to the boy, calm as could be, told him "I gave you three chances, you didn't leave me alone" and punched him. Was he wrong? Dunno. Does that make him Bipolar, Autistic or anything else? I don't think so. He got the <img src="/community/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/2012/censored2.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":censored2:" title="censored2 :censored2:" data-shortname=":censored2:" /> of this kid bugging him. He told him. He warned him. Kid didn't listen. Oh well. Bet he won't do it again.</p><p></p><p>I have alot of concern when I see a 4 year old kid diagnosed with Bipolar. I won't lie to ya. I'm not a psychiatrist, therapist or anything else, T, but that bothers me. Because yeah, look - 9 years later with my son, he's not Bipolar. And you know what? I believe them. I believe he's Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) - with some mood stuff because of the inability to express himself, and he gets frustrated. That makes sense to me. That fits him more than the BiPolar (BP). I questioned the BiPolar (BP) all this time along because he is not depressed. Never has been. The current psychiatrist said that should have made me wonder. But the old psychiatrist said "hypomanic" and I believed him.</p><p></p><p>I think, too, alot of people (and I was one of them way back in 1999) go into a psychiatrist looking for a drug (as I commented on another thread, not always the way to go) to make their kid calm down, listen, be good, and not throw tantrums. There isn't a pill to do that. There aren't two pills to do that. And if you have a child that is a behavioral issue (i.e. ODD), there are no drugs for that. It's a long, heavy, drawn out fight. I'm telling you, cuz I did it. It was horrible. It was awful. I had to change everything around. It wasn't easy. But you know what? I CURED his ODD. </p><p></p><p>I, personally, think there is alot about childhood mental illness that is misconstrued, misunderstood, and I think alot of parents just don't know. </p><p></p><p>If your child goes to school and kicks the teacher in the knee, that doesn't mean your child is manic. </p><p></p><p>Time. Patience. And more time. Quite honestly, my best "in hindsight" advice is, CHILL ON THE PILLS, look for therapy and interventions, and spend LOTS of time with a COUPLE of psychiatrists, to have TWO opinions. And a neuropsychological evaluation can't ever hurt.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Janna, post: 88580, member: 2737"] Well, I think there are alot of misconceptions about what Bipolar looks like. In general, overall, at many places I go to speak to parents. Mainly, mania. That is in terms of Bipolar. Many of the diagnosis have similar things, like ADHD, Bipolar, Autism kids are all hyper. Many/most are inattentive. Many have Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) type tendencies. Many are self harmers (i.e. head banging). I know why my son has been given the diagnosis'es he has over the years. When he was 3, and the psychiatrist at that time said ADHD, what he saw was a very hyper 3 1/2 year old boy, bouncing from activity to activity in his office, and gave me a script for Ritalin. The only thing Dylan was doing, at that point, was head banging. And he had the speech delay. Maybe that psychiatrist didn't know much about Autism. He was a much older man (late 60's, if not older). I know why the psychiatrist in 2002 gave Dylan the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD)-not otherwise specified diagnosis. Told me, go home and read up on it. I did. Some fit, some didn't. In 2006 I took Dylan to a neuropsychologist. He said Dylan was Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD), for sure, 100%. Recommended Occupational Therapist (OT), the school said "nah, he doesn't need that", but he did, and I allowed the school to tell me he didn't, and didn't follow through. That won't happen again, and yes, he's getting it now. Anyway ~ the neuropsychologist said he didn't know what to make of the diagnosis of Bipolar. I took that report, the whole 21 pages, to the psychiatrist that said Bipolar, and he said "he's entitled to his opinion". He was firm Dylan was hypomanic. This psychiatrist says no. I know parents that go on many message boards and talk and talk about how their kids are insane, crazed, raging, messes, and you'd think "oh my God, that sounds just like Bipolar". But until YOU are IN that HOUSE, seeing WHAT is leading UP TO the raging mess, you do NOT know anything about that child. I have friends who's kids are completely undisciplined, and they go to the psychiatrist and tell them they are firm, strict, rules, etc, basically lie, and the psychiatrist thinks the kid has massive issues, and really doesn't. That, by the way, isn't directed at anyone here, or to imply anything about anyone here. Let me get that out of the way now. Remember, I run a Childhood Bipolar Support page on MySpace with almost 400 friends now. So, yeah, I talk to alot of people. I feel comfortable with my son's current diagnosis because my son is under 24 hour a day, 7 day a week watch by 7 people on a team that he cannot get away from. The behavior mod is consistent, firm, strict, and there is nobody there that will give Dylan 2nd chances, or that he can manipulate, like any child would with a real parent. The staff do not have empathy. Having said that, these people are seeing my son at his finest. Yes, many, many children honeymoon. Dylan is still honeymooning. It's getting to the point now he can't hold it together anymore. He punched a kid on Wednesday. The kid kept teasing him. He kept teasing him. Dylan gave him 3 chances. Finally, Dylan walked up to the boy, calm as could be, told him "I gave you three chances, you didn't leave me alone" and punched him. Was he wrong? Dunno. Does that make him Bipolar, Autistic or anything else? I don't think so. He got the :censored: of this kid bugging him. He told him. He warned him. Kid didn't listen. Oh well. Bet he won't do it again. I have alot of concern when I see a 4 year old kid diagnosed with Bipolar. I won't lie to ya. I'm not a psychiatrist, therapist or anything else, T, but that bothers me. Because yeah, look - 9 years later with my son, he's not Bipolar. And you know what? I believe them. I believe he's Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) - with some mood stuff because of the inability to express himself, and he gets frustrated. That makes sense to me. That fits him more than the BiPolar (BP). I questioned the BiPolar (BP) all this time along because he is not depressed. Never has been. The current psychiatrist said that should have made me wonder. But the old psychiatrist said "hypomanic" and I believed him. I think, too, alot of people (and I was one of them way back in 1999) go into a psychiatrist looking for a drug (as I commented on another thread, not always the way to go) to make their kid calm down, listen, be good, and not throw tantrums. There isn't a pill to do that. There aren't two pills to do that. And if you have a child that is a behavioral issue (i.e. ODD), there are no drugs for that. It's a long, heavy, drawn out fight. I'm telling you, cuz I did it. It was horrible. It was awful. I had to change everything around. It wasn't easy. But you know what? I CURED his ODD. I, personally, think there is alot about childhood mental illness that is misconstrued, misunderstood, and I think alot of parents just don't know. If your child goes to school and kicks the teacher in the knee, that doesn't mean your child is manic. Time. Patience. And more time. Quite honestly, my best "in hindsight" advice is, CHILL ON THE PILLS, look for therapy and interventions, and spend LOTS of time with a COUPLE of psychiatrists, to have TWO opinions. And a neuropsychological evaluation can't ever hurt. [/QUOTE]
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