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Just a bunch of questions this morning....paternity and child support
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<blockquote data-quote="Hound dog" data-source="post: 605078" data-attributes="member: 84"><p>You probably don't want to get me started on this subject. lol </p><p></p><p>Younger bro, while a class A jerk often enough, will NOT abandon a child under any circumstances. While this is an admirable trait, it has also come back to bite him in the rear so many times it isn't funny. </p><p></p><p>First wife, married at 18.....knocked her up prior (supposedly, he actually chose the wrong sister shotgun wedding). No doubt baby was actually his bff's child NOT his. Looked nothing like him and was a female clone of his best friend. His bff chose the sister, and his son is a clone of my bro. omg Anyway......she has 2nd baby immediately after, this one at least LOOKS similar to bro......except she was sleeping with anyone she could drag into the house so it's anyone's guess if the child is actually his or not. Because he was married to her with first daughter was born, he was forced to pay child support even though it was proven she was not his bio child. Any child born within a marriage the state regards as the fathers bio child, regardless and expects them to take responsibility. (at least in Illinois at that time) Second wife was worse. None of his children by this woman are his. NONE. No doubt. He wasn't even in the state for 3 mos when she got knocked up with the youngest. omg. State could care less. He paid child support on all of them.......is currently raising the youngest. </p><p></p><p>This, however, ticks me off. I understand in most cases this is the only father the child has known.........but dammit fair is fair. If a biodad has to take responsibility for a child born outside of wedlock, then a husband should NOT have to take responsibility for his wife's infidelity. Although I do think if him and the children are close the relationship should be maintained. Not fair to him or the kids on that score. </p><p></p><p>Honestly though? State / govt could care less who is responsible for who as long as they aren't footing the bill for any given child. Fair doesn't matter. This is the ONLY reason we have child support laws. </p><p></p><p>And sorry, I think it's wrong. Don't care if I get blasted or not. </p><p></p><p>Katie's biomom could have worked for years and years with no issue. She had a built in sitter with her dad, and I know had several other options for free sitters. No excuse. Yet she collected child support and welfare (at that time both a check and food stamps plus insurance although we always had Katie covered) until they literally threw her off when Mo changed their laws. </p><p></p><p>Now I never minded paying child support. And I was the one who saw to it that it was always paid. But when Mo decided we also had to pay for biomom's sheer laziness.......that is when I became furious. We were forced to pay back every single dime she ever got from welfare..........TWICE. Granted ohio forced them to refund the second set of nearly 40k but still. omg </p><p></p><p>I'm all for Dad's taking responsibility, but by darn a woman has got to take it as well. She also had those children......it wasn't a one sided deal. </p><p></p><p>My mom raised 5 kids on min wage with not a dime in child support ever paid. (my dad sat in prison for a year for refusal to pay because mom refused to comply with visitation) It wasn't easy by a long shot. But she did it and we respect her for stepping up to the plate. Needless to say there is little to no respect at all for biodad who totally dropped the ball. My grandmother raised 7 without welfare or childsupport.........the entire family respects the hades out of her and has zero for maternal grandfather, nor did they have a relationship with him. phht</p><p></p><p>The way child support is set up......a woman can play a male for a big fat check each month (if he has a decent job) just by getting preggers with his child. I have seen waaaaaay too many women where this is their only form of income, and they are quite content with it. state/govt doesn't care because they're not footing the bills. </p><p></p><p>I realize dad's need to take responsibility for their kids, I truly do. But women need to as well........and need to be forced to when the males don't step up to do so. You want equality, there it is. </p><p></p><p>But getting govt involved only gave parents who would support their children regardless and major PITA to deal with........and has not done much to correct parents who just walk away from a relationship and really don't give a darn. </p><p></p><p>The system, as do most govt systems, needs redone severely.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hound dog, post: 605078, member: 84"] You probably don't want to get me started on this subject. lol Younger bro, while a class A jerk often enough, will NOT abandon a child under any circumstances. While this is an admirable trait, it has also come back to bite him in the rear so many times it isn't funny. First wife, married at 18.....knocked her up prior (supposedly, he actually chose the wrong sister shotgun wedding). No doubt baby was actually his bff's child NOT his. Looked nothing like him and was a female clone of his best friend. His bff chose the sister, and his son is a clone of my bro. omg Anyway......she has 2nd baby immediately after, this one at least LOOKS similar to bro......except she was sleeping with anyone she could drag into the house so it's anyone's guess if the child is actually his or not. Because he was married to her with first daughter was born, he was forced to pay child support even though it was proven she was not his bio child. Any child born within a marriage the state regards as the fathers bio child, regardless and expects them to take responsibility. (at least in Illinois at that time) Second wife was worse. None of his children by this woman are his. NONE. No doubt. He wasn't even in the state for 3 mos when she got knocked up with the youngest. omg. State could care less. He paid child support on all of them.......is currently raising the youngest. This, however, ticks me off. I understand in most cases this is the only father the child has known.........but dammit fair is fair. If a biodad has to take responsibility for a child born outside of wedlock, then a husband should NOT have to take responsibility for his wife's infidelity. Although I do think if him and the children are close the relationship should be maintained. Not fair to him or the kids on that score. Honestly though? State / govt could care less who is responsible for who as long as they aren't footing the bill for any given child. Fair doesn't matter. This is the ONLY reason we have child support laws. And sorry, I think it's wrong. Don't care if I get blasted or not. Katie's biomom could have worked for years and years with no issue. She had a built in sitter with her dad, and I know had several other options for free sitters. No excuse. Yet she collected child support and welfare (at that time both a check and food stamps plus insurance although we always had Katie covered) until they literally threw her off when Mo changed their laws. Now I never minded paying child support. And I was the one who saw to it that it was always paid. But when Mo decided we also had to pay for biomom's sheer laziness.......that is when I became furious. We were forced to pay back every single dime she ever got from welfare..........TWICE. Granted ohio forced them to refund the second set of nearly 40k but still. omg I'm all for Dad's taking responsibility, but by darn a woman has got to take it as well. She also had those children......it wasn't a one sided deal. My mom raised 5 kids on min wage with not a dime in child support ever paid. (my dad sat in prison for a year for refusal to pay because mom refused to comply with visitation) It wasn't easy by a long shot. But she did it and we respect her for stepping up to the plate. Needless to say there is little to no respect at all for biodad who totally dropped the ball. My grandmother raised 7 without welfare or childsupport.........the entire family respects the hades out of her and has zero for maternal grandfather, nor did they have a relationship with him. phht The way child support is set up......a woman can play a male for a big fat check each month (if he has a decent job) just by getting preggers with his child. I have seen waaaaaay too many women where this is their only form of income, and they are quite content with it. state/govt doesn't care because they're not footing the bills. I realize dad's need to take responsibility for their kids, I truly do. But women need to as well........and need to be forced to when the males don't step up to do so. You want equality, there it is. But getting govt involved only gave parents who would support their children regardless and major PITA to deal with........and has not done much to correct parents who just walk away from a relationship and really don't give a darn. The system, as do most govt systems, needs redone severely. [/QUOTE]
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