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<blockquote data-quote="hearts and roses" data-source="post: 186798" data-attributes="member: 2211"><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkslateblue">in my humble opinion, the bottom line is education - again. We teach our kids about everything from sex to alcohol to drugs, driving, how to kill people in other countries; 18 year old's can own property, sign contracts, get married and have babies and yet, for some reason, we can't teach them how to drink safely and within appropriate limits? </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkslateblue">In my house, I allowed both daughter's to have a wine cooler or beer (if they wanted one - they often said No Thanks) with dinner occasionally after 18. ONLY IN MY HOME-AND NONE OF THEIR FRIENDS, EVER. I didn't encourage it, but it wasn't taboo. Did they partake? Sometimes to rarely. Even despite difficult child's involvement with with alcohol this past year, she is not a big drinker. Her friends once told me that she rarely even finishes a beer. And at a family graduation party, her cousin said she turned down a second drink. Pot yes, alcohol not so much. And easy child has never been a real big drinker. I believe that thier 'take it or leave it' attitude is because we never made it a super big deal. I am a responsible drinker and H has come clean about his alcoholism and they know and respect that he's not drinking anymore.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkslateblue">Whether the drinking age is 18 or 21, I believe that most kids start stealing booze and snatching drinks when they are about 14/15 years of age. Binge drinking has been around forever. I remember playing a game called "Quarters" at bars all the time. You bounce a quarter into a shot glass. If you miss you drink the shot - if you get it in, your friend drinks the shot. It's similar to Beer Pong. And what about those stupid hats with the holders for 2 beers and a tube that leads to the drinkers mouth? Those have been around before I started drinking.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkslateblue">I see this as just another way of our government trying to micromanage it's people again. Values and appropriate behaviors are taught at home, not by making up laws that don't work or inhibit people from doing what they are going to do anyway. Some European countries don't even have age limits at all. </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkslateblue">That said, I think that the laws regarding driving while intoxicated, etc., should all stay in force as is. Up here in CT they are very strict. Re-educating our soon to be adults in HS health class can be helpful. Even more helpful would be to have some people who have either lost a child or have been jailed due to drinking...and some speakers from AA wouldn't be a bad thing either - to stress how a social activity could soon turn into an addiction or possibly lead to jail time or death (of themself or an other person). </span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: darkslateblue">I think it's naive of anyone to believe that when they ship their 18 year old off to college, he/she's not going to imbibe. I would rather have my child be fully aware of what her reaction to and limitiations are of alcohol BEFORE she reaches the campus. And in regards to campuses - there is campus security and RA's in every dorm. My easy child told me that the RA's look the other way and security is rarely even around on weekend nights.</span></span></span></p><p> </p><p><span style="font-family: 'Garamond'"><span style="font-size: 12px"><span style="color: #483d8b">I think this has the potential of being a very touchy discussion I think; especially on this board. </span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="hearts and roses, post: 186798, member: 2211"] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue]in my humble opinion, the bottom line is education - again. We teach our kids about everything from sex to alcohol to drugs, driving, how to kill people in other countries; 18 year old's can own property, sign contracts, get married and have babies and yet, for some reason, we can't teach them how to drink safely and within appropriate limits? [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue]In my house, I allowed both daughter's to have a wine cooler or beer (if they wanted one - they often said No Thanks) with dinner occasionally after 18. ONLY IN MY HOME-AND NONE OF THEIR FRIENDS, EVER. I didn't encourage it, but it wasn't taboo. Did they partake? Sometimes to rarely. Even despite difficult child's involvement with with alcohol this past year, she is not a big drinker. Her friends once told me that she rarely even finishes a beer. And at a family graduation party, her cousin said she turned down a second drink. Pot yes, alcohol not so much. And easy child has never been a real big drinker. I believe that thier 'take it or leave it' attitude is because we never made it a super big deal. I am a responsible drinker and H has come clean about his alcoholism and they know and respect that he's not drinking anymore.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue]Whether the drinking age is 18 or 21, I believe that most kids start stealing booze and snatching drinks when they are about 14/15 years of age. Binge drinking has been around forever. I remember playing a game called "Quarters" at bars all the time. You bounce a quarter into a shot glass. If you miss you drink the shot - if you get it in, your friend drinks the shot. It's similar to Beer Pong. And what about those stupid hats with the holders for 2 beers and a tube that leads to the drinkers mouth? Those have been around before I started drinking.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue]I see this as just another way of our government trying to micromanage it's people again. Values and appropriate behaviors are taught at home, not by making up laws that don't work or inhibit people from doing what they are going to do anyway. Some European countries don't even have age limits at all. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue]That said, I think that the laws regarding driving while intoxicated, etc., should all stay in force as is. Up here in CT they are very strict. Re-educating our soon to be adults in HS health class can be helpful. Even more helpful would be to have some people who have either lost a child or have been jailed due to drinking...and some speakers from AA wouldn't be a bad thing either - to stress how a social activity could soon turn into an addiction or possibly lead to jail time or death (of themself or an other person). [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=darkslateblue]I think it's naive of anyone to believe that when they ship their 18 year old off to college, he/she's not going to imbibe. I would rather have my child be fully aware of what her reaction to and limitiations are of alcohol BEFORE she reaches the campus. And in regards to campuses - there is campus security and RA's in every dorm. My easy child told me that the RA's look the other way and security is rarely even around on weekend nights.[/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=#483d8b][/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Garamond][SIZE=3][COLOR=#483d8b]I think this has the potential of being a very touchy discussion I think; especially on this board. [/COLOR][/SIZE][/FONT] [/QUOTE]
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