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<blockquote data-quote="klmno" data-source="post: 262737" data-attributes="member: 3699"><p>Good thoughts! difficult child called this morning- he only was allowed 5 mins but had enough "points" earned to get other things- he said he had chosen a call home, a 6-piece order of chicken, and a movie. I asked if it was pretty tough in there and he said some of it is- I guess I expected that. He sounded like he's handling it pretty well though- I guess as well as can be expected for being one of the youngest in there.</p><p></p><p>He said he had been told where he would be going and for hhow long (12-18 mos with a possible release a little earlier than 12mos). But, this is based on people using their own knowledgable experience- not his own staff workers making a determination- so I'm trying not to get my head set on this as being a fact. For instance, staff told him there was only one choice where he would go due to educational requirements, however, that might be true but it might not be and the person might not be aware of mental health decisions involved. </p><p></p><p>Also, the length of stay (LOS) he was told doesn't quite make sense and I'm thinking that whoever told him that didn't have a good understanding about how it's determined- either that or the formula that Department of Juvenile Justice has online is not accurate. When I work the formula, I come up with 9-15 months. If someone else wants to make a run thru it, let me know and I'd be happy to PM the specifics about difficult child's charges and the web link. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" /></p><p></p><p>I think I see why the calculation is in question though- some people are looking at the number of "charges". In juvenile court, the CHINS & my bro's custody case are given one of those numbers but are not used in calculating LOS because they aren't actual offenses committed by the difficult child. I also found that a kid is better off being sentenced for an "indeterminate" amount of time because that allows an early release. on the other hand, the defense attny said that he was surprised that the judge committed difficult child on so many charges- he said she usually drops the ones the kid has a suspended sentence for and only uses the most current charge. He said he thought her main decisive factor was being worried that difficult child would seriously harm me or someone else and that she had eased up on kids in the past, then they have committed serious bodily harm so this played into her decision, he thinks. I told him that those worries had crossed my mind, too.</p><p></p><p>Sooooo, we will just have to suffer thru another 16 more days to get their determiniation of the range- which still doesn't mean a lot because they are giving early outs. At least I will be able to ask when his first review date/staff meeting will be so I'll know that will be his first chance for release- no matter what the LOS is.</p><p></p><p>My next big concern is whether or not he should come home and what to do about it if I think he shouldn't. Ok, that's enough of my rambling. LOL!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="klmno, post: 262737, member: 3699"] Good thoughts! difficult child called this morning- he only was allowed 5 mins but had enough "points" earned to get other things- he said he had chosen a call home, a 6-piece order of chicken, and a movie. I asked if it was pretty tough in there and he said some of it is- I guess I expected that. He sounded like he's handling it pretty well though- I guess as well as can be expected for being one of the youngest in there. He said he had been told where he would be going and for hhow long (12-18 mos with a possible release a little earlier than 12mos). But, this is based on people using their own knowledgable experience- not his own staff workers making a determination- so I'm trying not to get my head set on this as being a fact. For instance, staff told him there was only one choice where he would go due to educational requirements, however, that might be true but it might not be and the person might not be aware of mental health decisions involved. Also, the length of stay (LOS) he was told doesn't quite make sense and I'm thinking that whoever told him that didn't have a good understanding about how it's determined- either that or the formula that Department of Juvenile Justice has online is not accurate. When I work the formula, I come up with 9-15 months. If someone else wants to make a run thru it, let me know and I'd be happy to PM the specifics about difficult child's charges and the web link. :D I think I see why the calculation is in question though- some people are looking at the number of "charges". In juvenile court, the CHINS & my bro's custody case are given one of those numbers but are not used in calculating LOS because they aren't actual offenses committed by the difficult child. I also found that a kid is better off being sentenced for an "indeterminate" amount of time because that allows an early release. on the other hand, the defense attny said that he was surprised that the judge committed difficult child on so many charges- he said she usually drops the ones the kid has a suspended sentence for and only uses the most current charge. He said he thought her main decisive factor was being worried that difficult child would seriously harm me or someone else and that she had eased up on kids in the past, then they have committed serious bodily harm so this played into her decision, he thinks. I told him that those worries had crossed my mind, too. Sooooo, we will just have to suffer thru another 16 more days to get their determiniation of the range- which still doesn't mean a lot because they are giving early outs. At least I will be able to ask when his first review date/staff meeting will be so I'll know that will be his first chance for release- no matter what the LOS is. My next big concern is whether or not he should come home and what to do about it if I think he shouldn't. Ok, that's enough of my rambling. LOL! [/QUOTE]
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