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<blockquote data-quote="buddy" data-source="post: 515657" data-attributes="member: 12886"><p>hi! I think it is great you want to improve your signing so you can use it as real language for her....research is good on this, if she is really using it as langauge she will develop her knowledge base and language base as you are working on the verbal. One thing to consider is if you are really going to learn ASL or Signed English. I am a huge ASL proponent, it is a full language on its own and has its own rules just as any language. It is not directly equated to English though. So, if at the same time you are going to be teaching Oral language in English, you may want to use sign language as you talk in English. THis is a huge political issue in the Deaf community and I am clearly on the end of using ASL and teaching English as a second language, but your situation is very different. You are going to be using oral English to communicate with her and are working on her speech. Just explaining the difference so when you decide to go to a class, you will understand that if the class is an ASL class you will for sure learn lots of vocabulary and finger spelling but they will emphasize the language structure of ASL and I didn't want you to be surprised/confused. The signs are the same, you can still use them for your purpose of course! there are now wonderful free sites online showing video dictionaries of signs which is so much better than a book. just put it in a search engine and you will find them. </p><p></p><p>Any way to get a different Speech Language Pathologist (SLP)? NOT saying this person is not good, but I am a little surprised he doesn't work with motor speech issues and it would be great to find an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who is fluent in sign language. Kids pick up language much faster if it is being used as you want them to use it....so all convo around her should include signs.</p><p></p><p>I think it is great if you work with an Occupational Therapist (OT) who understands oral motor issues, do you remember a long time ago when I asked you about apraxia of speech??? Do you still have those links? If this is what he is now saying ....motor issues with the speech mechanism, it might be time to look at that and see if you can find an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who DOES know how to work with that. I certainly dont know if that is what you are dealing with, just saying if this is what the Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) is thinking then you may find some support and ideas on those sites.</p><p></p><p>HUGS to you....It is very hopeful to hear that her overall communication is still developing (thru signs) so for sure increase that mode since you are seeing frustration. Language and communication, in my opinion and research supports...is the big deal here and you have always been on top of that.</p><p></p><p></p><p>EDIT::::OMG you know what just hit me???? IF V has auditory processing problems....there could be a chance, it is only a chance (and more support for your using sign language to be proactive) that she has been unable to progress due to severe auditory processing problems. I think this lends support to having an Occupational Therapist (OT)/Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who is strong in oral motor development of a child her age to assess. (does she imitate non speech movements with her mouth??? kisses, tongue clicks, sticking tongue out, blowing bubbles off your hand, etc??....non speech movements are not directly related to verbal speech movements...one can do them and still have oral speech issues but it can give you a clue). Her hearing has been tested I think you have said, and so her hearing is ok but no way to figure out the nature of an auditory processing problem with her at this age. Something to keep really on top of.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="buddy, post: 515657, member: 12886"] hi! I think it is great you want to improve your signing so you can use it as real language for her....research is good on this, if she is really using it as langauge she will develop her knowledge base and language base as you are working on the verbal. One thing to consider is if you are really going to learn ASL or Signed English. I am a huge ASL proponent, it is a full language on its own and has its own rules just as any language. It is not directly equated to English though. So, if at the same time you are going to be teaching Oral language in English, you may want to use sign language as you talk in English. THis is a huge political issue in the Deaf community and I am clearly on the end of using ASL and teaching English as a second language, but your situation is very different. You are going to be using oral English to communicate with her and are working on her speech. Just explaining the difference so when you decide to go to a class, you will understand that if the class is an ASL class you will for sure learn lots of vocabulary and finger spelling but they will emphasize the language structure of ASL and I didn't want you to be surprised/confused. The signs are the same, you can still use them for your purpose of course! there are now wonderful free sites online showing video dictionaries of signs which is so much better than a book. just put it in a search engine and you will find them. Any way to get a different Speech Language Pathologist (SLP)? NOT saying this person is not good, but I am a little surprised he doesn't work with motor speech issues and it would be great to find an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who is fluent in sign language. Kids pick up language much faster if it is being used as you want them to use it....so all convo around her should include signs. I think it is great if you work with an Occupational Therapist (OT) who understands oral motor issues, do you remember a long time ago when I asked you about apraxia of speech??? Do you still have those links? If this is what he is now saying ....motor issues with the speech mechanism, it might be time to look at that and see if you can find an Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who DOES know how to work with that. I certainly dont know if that is what you are dealing with, just saying if this is what the Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) is thinking then you may find some support and ideas on those sites. HUGS to you....It is very hopeful to hear that her overall communication is still developing (thru signs) so for sure increase that mode since you are seeing frustration. Language and communication, in my opinion and research supports...is the big deal here and you have always been on top of that. EDIT::::OMG you know what just hit me???? IF V has auditory processing problems....there could be a chance, it is only a chance (and more support for your using sign language to be proactive) that she has been unable to progress due to severe auditory processing problems. I think this lends support to having an Occupational Therapist (OT)/Speech Language Pathologist (SLP) who is strong in oral motor development of a child her age to assess. (does she imitate non speech movements with her mouth??? kisses, tongue clicks, sticking tongue out, blowing bubbles off your hand, etc??....non speech movements are not directly related to verbal speech movements...one can do them and still have oral speech issues but it can give you a clue). Her hearing has been tested I think you have said, and so her hearing is ok but no way to figure out the nature of an auditory processing problem with her at this age. Something to keep really on top of. [/QUOTE]
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