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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 521775" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>DDD, you've got it in one. There is a huge gulf in the transition. I'm also concerned at the way we're forced into seeing a shrink, who tend to focus on the illness and not on positive function. We've raised our kids to see themselves as - "this is how I am, I have some issues but I also have some gifts." And now they're under scrutiny while the shrink labels every little foible as a disease process.</p><p></p><p>I'm also upset by the amount of manipulation from this doctor. The problem is, she does not appear to be doing anything that her colleagues aren't doing with other patients. I've been telephoning around to try to find someone else we can send the kids to, and either there's nobody else, or they're expensive, or they're so heavily booked we'll be waiting six months or more. One clinic I rang talked to me like I was a brain-dead idiot - I asked when was the soonest the kids could be seen (especially easy child 2/difficult child 2). I was told with slow patience, "First take the kids to the GP for a referral to our clinic. Then when you have sent the referral to us, we'll be in touch to let you know who you will see and when."</p><p>I said, "I need to know now, when the kids can be seen, even approximately. Otherwise we could be wasting the GP's time and the kids' time. Let's assume you have the referral. I can give you the case details over the phone, at least enough for you to know which doctor of yours is the right one for my kids, as you say. So please, give me an indication of when..."</p><p>The lady replied, even more slowly, "First take the kids to the GP and get the referral. Then send the referral to us..."</p><p>I said, "That is not how other doctors work."</p><p>"It's how we work. So take your kids to the GP to get the referral..."</p><p>I hung up. I could picture it - I would take the kids to the GP (which will take a week or more to organise, over Easter. Two weeks - Orthodox Easter/Passover is a week later, the GP is Coptic Orthodox, the pediatrician, who might also still be able to write a referral -his third one now for easy child 2/difficult child 2 - is Jewish). So let's say two to three weeks to get the referral. Then the snail mail, then wait while the clinic sifts through what could be an avalanche of referrals. Then ait for them to telephone. Then be told, "We'll see your kids in June," (which still would be sooner than some, but we're in crisis NOW).</p><p></p><p>This morning I'm telephoning the Health Ombudsman. I think the whole psychiatric game here needs a solid shake-up. I'm noticing that the doctors and even the reception staff treat me differently, and I'm not even the patient! They talk softly and gently, making soothing noises, as if I'm 70 Kg of sweaty gelignite, likely to explode if bumped. No wonder they're all nuts... </p><p></p><p>IC, we can use a GP for prescription of stimulant medications, AFTER they've been treated by a psychiatrist for six months, IF the shrink is happy to let the GP handle it (and in my observation, our shrinks don't like letting go of a patient) and IF the dose does not need to be increased.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 521775, member: 1991"] DDD, you've got it in one. There is a huge gulf in the transition. I'm also concerned at the way we're forced into seeing a shrink, who tend to focus on the illness and not on positive function. We've raised our kids to see themselves as - "this is how I am, I have some issues but I also have some gifts." And now they're under scrutiny while the shrink labels every little foible as a disease process. I'm also upset by the amount of manipulation from this doctor. The problem is, she does not appear to be doing anything that her colleagues aren't doing with other patients. I've been telephoning around to try to find someone else we can send the kids to, and either there's nobody else, or they're expensive, or they're so heavily booked we'll be waiting six months or more. One clinic I rang talked to me like I was a brain-dead idiot - I asked when was the soonest the kids could be seen (especially easy child 2/difficult child 2). I was told with slow patience, "First take the kids to the GP for a referral to our clinic. Then when you have sent the referral to us, we'll be in touch to let you know who you will see and when." I said, "I need to know now, when the kids can be seen, even approximately. Otherwise we could be wasting the GP's time and the kids' time. Let's assume you have the referral. I can give you the case details over the phone, at least enough for you to know which doctor of yours is the right one for my kids, as you say. So please, give me an indication of when..." The lady replied, even more slowly, "First take the kids to the GP and get the referral. Then send the referral to us..." I said, "That is not how other doctors work." "It's how we work. So take your kids to the GP to get the referral..." I hung up. I could picture it - I would take the kids to the GP (which will take a week or more to organise, over Easter. Two weeks - Orthodox Easter/Passover is a week later, the GP is Coptic Orthodox, the pediatrician, who might also still be able to write a referral -his third one now for easy child 2/difficult child 2 - is Jewish). So let's say two to three weeks to get the referral. Then the snail mail, then wait while the clinic sifts through what could be an avalanche of referrals. Then ait for them to telephone. Then be told, "We'll see your kids in June," (which still would be sooner than some, but we're in crisis NOW). This morning I'm telephoning the Health Ombudsman. I think the whole psychiatric game here needs a solid shake-up. I'm noticing that the doctors and even the reception staff treat me differently, and I'm not even the patient! They talk softly and gently, making soothing noises, as if I'm 70 Kg of sweaty gelignite, likely to explode if bumped. No wonder they're all nuts... IC, we can use a GP for prescription of stimulant medications, AFTER they've been treated by a psychiatrist for six months, IF the shrink is happy to let the GP handle it (and in my observation, our shrinks don't like letting go of a patient) and IF the dose does not need to be increased. Marg [/QUOTE]
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