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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 190887" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Melatonin is awesome, in my opinion. Every psychiatrist my kids has recommended it - usually they want to try it for a few months before they rx anything for sleep. It can be very effective and is quite gentle on the system (from what I have been told - I don't know of any research offhand about this - it is just what the docs have said). </p><p> </p><p>I think it would be worth trying as it probably can't hurt - just make sure that each doctor he sees knows he is taking it. I treat it like any other medication when we go to the doctor I mention it. That way if there is a problem the doctor will/should know.</p><p> </p><p>Other things that might help (you have probably tried these, but thought I would mention them) lavender for aromatherapy is supposed to help sleep, a set bedtime routine is supposed to help, a warm bath just before bed (I know - 11yo boys think they are allergic to soap, but if he doesn't fight it, it might help), a soothing warm tea (we use tension tamer by celestial seasonings and it does seem to help).</p><p> </p><p>Having the child not sleep is so hard on the parents. I hope you and husband trade off getting up in the night to check on him.</p><p> </p><p>It is so frustrating when they get the therapy down pat and can manipulate the therapist. I am always surprised that the tdocs fall for that stuff. You would think they would know better, wouldn't you?</p><p> </p><p>My difficult child used to go out wandering in the middle of the night. Drove us nuts. Finally we explained that while he was just walking and not causing trouble or doing anything illegal (he truly wasn't), he would still be blamed if someone else did something illegal. The police brought him home once, and so they KNEW that he would wander at night. So they would look for him if someone's house or car or whatever was broken into, stolen, or otherwise disturbed. They would come investigate HIM because they knew he was out at night. The police probably wouldn't know of other kids/people out at night, so they look at whomever they know is out at that time.</p><p> </p><p>this really scared my difficult child. Wiz stopped leaving the property at night. He might go sit in the backyard, but didn't go further. He had already had a brush or two with the police and really didn't want any more involvement with them.</p><p> </p><p>Explaining this to your difficult child might help. Can you set up somewhere he CAN go (out of his room where he would bother your other son) to read or whatever when he just can't sleep? It is so frustrating to not be able to sleep and not be able to do anything. Maybe just a space he can go play quietly or listen to soothing music and read? I would make sure the music available is very soothing and that the activities are quiet. For a long time I kept a few books that were old favorites and a blanket on our couch at night. Wiz could go there and at least not disturb anyone else.</p><p> </p><p>I hope you can figure out a way to help him sleep. Wiz is on trazadone to help him sleep and has been for a number of years. It does have its drawbacks (any medication does) but it certainly helps him sleep. He also doesn't feel groggy in the am.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 190887, member: 1233"] Melatonin is awesome, in my opinion. Every psychiatrist my kids has recommended it - usually they want to try it for a few months before they rx anything for sleep. It can be very effective and is quite gentle on the system (from what I have been told - I don't know of any research offhand about this - it is just what the docs have said). I think it would be worth trying as it probably can't hurt - just make sure that each doctor he sees knows he is taking it. I treat it like any other medication when we go to the doctor I mention it. That way if there is a problem the doctor will/should know. Other things that might help (you have probably tried these, but thought I would mention them) lavender for aromatherapy is supposed to help sleep, a set bedtime routine is supposed to help, a warm bath just before bed (I know - 11yo boys think they are allergic to soap, but if he doesn't fight it, it might help), a soothing warm tea (we use tension tamer by celestial seasonings and it does seem to help). Having the child not sleep is so hard on the parents. I hope you and husband trade off getting up in the night to check on him. It is so frustrating when they get the therapy down pat and can manipulate the therapist. I am always surprised that the tdocs fall for that stuff. You would think they would know better, wouldn't you? My difficult child used to go out wandering in the middle of the night. Drove us nuts. Finally we explained that while he was just walking and not causing trouble or doing anything illegal (he truly wasn't), he would still be blamed if someone else did something illegal. The police brought him home once, and so they KNEW that he would wander at night. So they would look for him if someone's house or car or whatever was broken into, stolen, or otherwise disturbed. They would come investigate HIM because they knew he was out at night. The police probably wouldn't know of other kids/people out at night, so they look at whomever they know is out at that time. this really scared my difficult child. Wiz stopped leaving the property at night. He might go sit in the backyard, but didn't go further. He had already had a brush or two with the police and really didn't want any more involvement with them. Explaining this to your difficult child might help. Can you set up somewhere he CAN go (out of his room where he would bother your other son) to read or whatever when he just can't sleep? It is so frustrating to not be able to sleep and not be able to do anything. Maybe just a space he can go play quietly or listen to soothing music and read? I would make sure the music available is very soothing and that the activities are quiet. For a long time I kept a few books that were old favorites and a blanket on our couch at night. Wiz could go there and at least not disturb anyone else. I hope you can figure out a way to help him sleep. Wiz is on trazadone to help him sleep and has been for a number of years. It does have its drawbacks (any medication does) but it certainly helps him sleep. He also doesn't feel groggy in the am. [/QUOTE]
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