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<blockquote data-quote="susiestar" data-source="post: 577022" data-attributes="member: 1233"><p>Definitely sensory. Provide things he CAN destroy and make sure he knows that he IS allowed on these things and they are kept in this container. Anything NOT in that container is NOT to be ripped. Praise him for ripping things in his bin, just as you would praise a toddler for using the potty. </p><p></p><p>In many ways changing this behavior will be like training an animal. ONLY give attention/praise/reward for the good things. For the bad things, move them away from him and otherwise do not react. The reaction can become part of the stimming behavior. When they train dolphins or other wild animals, they simply cannot scold or punish. If you tell at or hit or punish a wild animal, it will either hurt you or go away and not cooperate again, often for very long periods of time if they are able to get away. Some animals will die from punishment before they will do what you want if they cannot get away with you. So you ONLY react when the dolphin makes the noise you want or does the small part of the behavior that you want. You build on that.</p><p></p><p>of course your student is not a wild animal, but in many ways it is vastly easier to train if you do not give any reaction to the negative and give a valued reward for the positive. </p><p></p><p>I would get a plastic bin, maybe one of the medication or large size plastic storage bins at Walmart, one with a lid, and put some lengths of fabric in it. You may be able to get a manager at a fabric store to donate fabric that isn't selling if you can give her a thank you on school letterhead or pta letterhead (or any nonprofit). All it has to have is the letterhead, and say thank you for donating fabric for our students. They can put the dollar amt on the receipt, you do NOT have to worry or account for that but they can use this as a donation on taxes. (I have done donations for many organizations since my teens, and this fits the IRS requirements.)</p><p></p><p>Then the fabric is in the bin (not all as you will likely need to refill it after a while) and he is able to use this as he would other sensory things to calm himself or fill his sensory needs. </p><p></p><p>You might even see if any churches have groups doing rag rugs. I know one local group here makes braided rugs from torn fabric strips. they cut them at the top and then tear them and braid them. These are sold to fund charities, donated to families in need, raffled and even used in silent auctions. Oddly, they find that the ones with torn fabric sold for more than the ones with cut fabric. People seem to like the frayed edge textures. This might be something he could contribute to if he keeps this up and you have groups doing this.</p><p></p><p>If nothing else, contact area thrift stores and ask if they could donate unsaleable clothing and linens or if they sell clothes that don't/won't sell as painters rags. Here one thrift store sells a tall kitchen trash bag stuffed with torn/stained clothing for about $5. When my kids were little, esp when thank you was chewing through a shirt a day pretty much, I got these bags and often about half of what they called 'rags' were kids clothes with stains that were tiny and my kids wore them, some of them for quite a while (if they didn't fit thank you, lol).</p><p></p><p>Other thrift stores here will fill large canisters, the size of 50 gallon drums, with torn/stained clothing. These are donated to groups that sell them by the pound to recycling centers. It doesn't matter if they are in pieces or tatters or what, just that they fit into the canisters. They might donate items for him to tear on the condition that the torn up fabric is returned to them. Here I am sure that at least one group would drop off a canister or some bags full and pick up the torn bits.</p><p></p><p>The trick will be to have him learn that he can ONLY tear what is in the bin. I would recommend that you and his mother agree on the same exact size/type/color of bin so that it is consistent. </p><p></p><p>What reward motivates him best? has very high value for him? Candy or praise or books or music or five min outside or ????? Use that to reward him for tearing what is in the bin. Anything else he tears is taken away or he is moved away from it. No scolding or frowns or fussing, just move him or the item. Move him to his bin if you need to. At first praise every time. As he starts to get it, praise should be intermittent and NOT on a set schedule. It will lose value and motivational power if you give it to him every fifth time or whatever. Not knowing if this time or the next time is the most effective reward scheme once the link between reward and goal behavior is established. If possible, have a reward that is ONLY used for tearin what is in his bin and if his mom can do the same reward it will work even better.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="susiestar, post: 577022, member: 1233"] Definitely sensory. Provide things he CAN destroy and make sure he knows that he IS allowed on these things and they are kept in this container. Anything NOT in that container is NOT to be ripped. Praise him for ripping things in his bin, just as you would praise a toddler for using the potty. In many ways changing this behavior will be like training an animal. ONLY give attention/praise/reward for the good things. For the bad things, move them away from him and otherwise do not react. The reaction can become part of the stimming behavior. When they train dolphins or other wild animals, they simply cannot scold or punish. If you tell at or hit or punish a wild animal, it will either hurt you or go away and not cooperate again, often for very long periods of time if they are able to get away. Some animals will die from punishment before they will do what you want if they cannot get away with you. So you ONLY react when the dolphin makes the noise you want or does the small part of the behavior that you want. You build on that. of course your student is not a wild animal, but in many ways it is vastly easier to train if you do not give any reaction to the negative and give a valued reward for the positive. I would get a plastic bin, maybe one of the medication or large size plastic storage bins at Walmart, one with a lid, and put some lengths of fabric in it. You may be able to get a manager at a fabric store to donate fabric that isn't selling if you can give her a thank you on school letterhead or pta letterhead (or any nonprofit). All it has to have is the letterhead, and say thank you for donating fabric for our students. They can put the dollar amt on the receipt, you do NOT have to worry or account for that but they can use this as a donation on taxes. (I have done donations for many organizations since my teens, and this fits the IRS requirements.) Then the fabric is in the bin (not all as you will likely need to refill it after a while) and he is able to use this as he would other sensory things to calm himself or fill his sensory needs. You might even see if any churches have groups doing rag rugs. I know one local group here makes braided rugs from torn fabric strips. they cut them at the top and then tear them and braid them. These are sold to fund charities, donated to families in need, raffled and even used in silent auctions. Oddly, they find that the ones with torn fabric sold for more than the ones with cut fabric. People seem to like the frayed edge textures. This might be something he could contribute to if he keeps this up and you have groups doing this. If nothing else, contact area thrift stores and ask if they could donate unsaleable clothing and linens or if they sell clothes that don't/won't sell as painters rags. Here one thrift store sells a tall kitchen trash bag stuffed with torn/stained clothing for about $5. When my kids were little, esp when thank you was chewing through a shirt a day pretty much, I got these bags and often about half of what they called 'rags' were kids clothes with stains that were tiny and my kids wore them, some of them for quite a while (if they didn't fit thank you, lol). Other thrift stores here will fill large canisters, the size of 50 gallon drums, with torn/stained clothing. These are donated to groups that sell them by the pound to recycling centers. It doesn't matter if they are in pieces or tatters or what, just that they fit into the canisters. They might donate items for him to tear on the condition that the torn up fabric is returned to them. Here I am sure that at least one group would drop off a canister or some bags full and pick up the torn bits. The trick will be to have him learn that he can ONLY tear what is in the bin. I would recommend that you and his mother agree on the same exact size/type/color of bin so that it is consistent. What reward motivates him best? has very high value for him? Candy or praise or books or music or five min outside or ????? Use that to reward him for tearing what is in the bin. Anything else he tears is taken away or he is moved away from it. No scolding or frowns or fussing, just move him or the item. Move him to his bin if you need to. At first praise every time. As he starts to get it, praise should be intermittent and NOT on a set schedule. It will lose value and motivational power if you give it to him every fifth time or whatever. Not knowing if this time or the next time is the most effective reward scheme once the link between reward and goal behavior is established. If possible, have a reward that is ONLY used for tearin what is in his bin and if his mom can do the same reward it will work even better. [/QUOTE]
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