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<blockquote data-quote="Mikey" data-source="post: 29403" data-attributes="member: 3579"><p><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Suz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jane, Rob and I just had a discussion this week about lying.</p><p></p><p>I think it's probably the 2,345,845,921,000 time we've had this same conversation :hammer: .</p><p></p><p>I ask why he lies and he says, "Because you'd get mad if I told you the truth."</p><p></p><p>To which, I reply as I always have, "I get even angrier when you lie to me- it's a double whammy."</p><p></p><p>Well, I'm sure you've had the same conversation.</p><p></p><p>He admits that he doesn't want a girlfriend to lie to him...or a friend...or a parent...</p><p></p><p>...but he seemingly doesn't get why, if that is true for him, he thinks I would want a liar for a son.</p><p></p><p> :grrr: :grrr: :grrr:</p><p></p><p>So I have basically given up ever believing him about anything. It makes me incredibly sad.</p><p></p><p>Suz </div></div></p><p></p><p>Wow Suz. You sure you weren't listening in on my conversation with my son a few weeks ago? When I was reading the symptoms for ODD, one of them (I think) was "lying as a way of life". difficult child 2 lies, even when there's no reason to lie. Same thing - "you'd be even more angry if I told you the truth". Rubbish. I'd rather he tell me the truth and then give me the middle finger if I didn't like it, rather than lie. </p><p></p><p>Therapist says that, at least, it's a bit of a good sign that he lies. For my difficult child at least, doctor says it means that he still cares (somewhat)about what we think. I don't like it, but I guess bitter water is better than nothing when you're thirsty. I'd still rather have him defiant and truthful, though.</p><p></p><p>"My kid lies all the time" - seems like this is a rather large club for us parents, no?</p><p></p><p>Mikey</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mikey, post: 29403, member: 3579"] <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Suz</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Jane, Rob and I just had a discussion this week about lying. I think it's probably the 2,345,845,921,000 time we've had this same conversation [img]:hammer:[/img] . I ask why he lies and he says, "Because you'd get mad if I told you the truth." To which, I reply as I always have, "I get even angrier when you lie to me- it's a double whammy." Well, I'm sure you've had the same conversation. He admits that he doesn't want a girlfriend to lie to him...or a friend...or a parent... ...but he seemingly doesn't get why, if that is true for him, he thinks I would want a liar for a son. [img]:grrr:[/img] [img]:grrr:[/img] [img]:grrr:[/img] So I have basically given up ever believing him about anything. It makes me incredibly sad. Suz </div></div> Wow Suz. You sure you weren't listening in on my conversation with my son a few weeks ago? When I was reading the symptoms for ODD, one of them (I think) was "lying as a way of life". difficult child 2 lies, even when there's no reason to lie. Same thing - "you'd be even more angry if I told you the truth". Rubbish. I'd rather he tell me the truth and then give me the middle finger if I didn't like it, rather than lie. Therapist says that, at least, it's a bit of a good sign that he lies. For my difficult child at least, doctor says it means that he still cares (somewhat)about what we think. I don't like it, but I guess bitter water is better than nothing when you're thirsty. I'd still rather have him defiant and truthful, though. "My kid lies all the time" - seems like this is a rather large club for us parents, no? Mikey [/QUOTE]
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