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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 391146" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>Sorry, that does not exclude autism AT ALL. I speak from experience - difficult child 3 is highly social, very gregarious, loves other kids and will chat happily and tell intimate secrets to total strangers. He also had significant language delay (both expressive and receptive) which he has now overcome.</p><p></p><p>When a child is clearly not able to demonstrate ability that is clearly there, then the test results have to be taken with a large pinch of salt.</p><p></p><p>difficult child 3 also reacts badly to antidepressants. So do I. That doesn't make either of us bipolar.</p><p></p><p>I still think the working hypothesis needs to be autism in some form. At least until you get answers tat make more sense and explain everything with a better fit.</p><p></p><p>Your husband said, "it's like T has a tape of correct responses but once he reaches the end of his tape he's lost". That is just like difficult child 3 was at that age. Let me assure you - as he gets older, his tape, or store of things to say, greatly increases. difficult child 3 and difficult child 1 both did this. It's OK, it's normal but it is far more obvious in the kids with language delay.</p><p></p><p>Also note - difficult child 3's language delay was big. He was still severely language delayed when he started school at 5. But now his vocabulary is at university level, as assessed when he was 14. However, due to the language delay, his brain was older when he learned to talk and so there are fewer connections in his head between ideas and concepts. Thismeans he will always have word retrieval issues.</p><p></p><p>Face blindness - it goes with the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD). I have not heard of face blindness as a symptom of bipolar. Of course it is possible to have two separate disorders, but Ockams Razor states that the simplest explanation is always the most likely, and the simplest explanation is for there to be only one disorder, one that explains it all. Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD).</p><p></p><p>Unfortunately, diagnosis is subjective to a certain extent. And if a particular group of health professionals have deleted certain disorders form their charts, then you are left with a smaller number of possibilities and often a less accurate fit.</p><p></p><p>It's like testing with a key - you answer the questions, and with each answer, the number of possibilities shrinks until only a handful are left. Think - playing "Guess Who?". You delete all the faces with glasses. All the ones with beards. Eventually you are left with only one possibility. But if, before the game begins, someone comes along and flips down this face and that face because "we have decided we don't play with those ones any more" and it just happens to BE one of those, you will never get an answer that really fits.</p><p></p><p>In other words - I think these docs are playing "Guess Who?" with an incomplete deck...</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 391146, member: 1991"] Sorry, that does not exclude autism AT ALL. I speak from experience - difficult child 3 is highly social, very gregarious, loves other kids and will chat happily and tell intimate secrets to total strangers. He also had significant language delay (both expressive and receptive) which he has now overcome. When a child is clearly not able to demonstrate ability that is clearly there, then the test results have to be taken with a large pinch of salt. difficult child 3 also reacts badly to antidepressants. So do I. That doesn't make either of us bipolar. I still think the working hypothesis needs to be autism in some form. At least until you get answers tat make more sense and explain everything with a better fit. Your husband said, "it's like T has a tape of correct responses but once he reaches the end of his tape he's lost". That is just like difficult child 3 was at that age. Let me assure you - as he gets older, his tape, or store of things to say, greatly increases. difficult child 3 and difficult child 1 both did this. It's OK, it's normal but it is far more obvious in the kids with language delay. Also note - difficult child 3's language delay was big. He was still severely language delayed when he started school at 5. But now his vocabulary is at university level, as assessed when he was 14. However, due to the language delay, his brain was older when he learned to talk and so there are fewer connections in his head between ideas and concepts. Thismeans he will always have word retrieval issues. Face blindness - it goes with the Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD). I have not heard of face blindness as a symptom of bipolar. Of course it is possible to have two separate disorders, but Ockams Razor states that the simplest explanation is always the most likely, and the simplest explanation is for there to be only one disorder, one that explains it all. Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD). Unfortunately, diagnosis is subjective to a certain extent. And if a particular group of health professionals have deleted certain disorders form their charts, then you are left with a smaller number of possibilities and often a less accurate fit. It's like testing with a key - you answer the questions, and with each answer, the number of possibilities shrinks until only a handful are left. Think - playing "Guess Who?". You delete all the faces with glasses. All the ones with beards. Eventually you are left with only one possibility. But if, before the game begins, someone comes along and flips down this face and that face because "we have decided we don't play with those ones any more" and it just happens to BE one of those, you will never get an answer that really fits. In other words - I think these docs are playing "Guess Who?" with an incomplete deck... Marg [/QUOTE]
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