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<blockquote data-quote="InsaneCdn" data-source="post: 430858" data-attributes="member: 11791"><p>ODD around here is definitely the "odd-man-out" diagnosis - as in, it describes a behavior problem, but says nothing about the cause(s) or potential fix(es). So, we tend to push that one to the bottom of the stack.</p><p> </p><p>ADHD alone would not normally be sufficient to produce the behaviors you are reporting... especially when the problems are both at school AND at home. (some kids hold it together at school, and then explode at home... in which case, the probability is higher that the problem is school)</p><p> </p><p>Biggest thing is, at least the family doctor recognizes that there are issues. Time to get referrals. Someone else listed neuropsychologist. Some other options are Pediatric Psychiatrist (M.D. with training in behavior and mental health issues), or PhD in Psychology, or a behavioral clinic (staffed with multiple specialties). None of these will cover ALL the bases either - but should get you much closer on the next round of diagnoses... </p><p> </p><p>Kids can be both brilliant, and learning disabled, at the same time. Any chance of a learning disability? (dyslexia, dysgraphia, etc.) These can make school a total pain for the kid - he feels smart, but comes across dumb, and the other kids jump on that REALLY fast.</p><p> </p><p>Is he clumsy? if so, in general? or just gross motor skills? (think team sports, bike-riding, swimming) or just fine motor skills? (tieing shoes, printing, eating with fork and spoon, etc.) If there are motor skills issues, then you'll need whatever specialists can help with that (up here, there aren't any... we have to push buttons all over the place to get various specialties to do their bits and then convince someone else to join the dots!). Generally, this gets missed unless its part of a bigger package (for example, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or CP would come with an expectation of some motor skills issues) - but CAN EXIST ALONE. Motor skills issues in school age kids are underdiagnosed and very under-accommodated - and extremely damaging to the kids self-image.</p><p> </p><p>And then... even IF it were just ADHD (not the highest probability, by the sounds of things, but...) there's enough chaos in his life that it would be hard for a non-difficult child kid to manage... but the problems seem to pre-date the latest developments, so these are complications rather than the source of the problem. Your swing-shift pattern may not be the ideal situation, because you can't keep every day the same. But please know that this will NOT be the root cause, either - just potentially a complicating factor.</p><p> </p><p>You need as complete a diagnosis as you can get - you won't get it all, even on this next pass - problems come in layers, so we can only deal with what is currently on the surface, and then see what else shows up. So, welcome to the process - it does get better (usually, eventually)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="InsaneCdn, post: 430858, member: 11791"] ODD around here is definitely the "odd-man-out" diagnosis - as in, it describes a behavior problem, but says nothing about the cause(s) or potential fix(es). So, we tend to push that one to the bottom of the stack. ADHD alone would not normally be sufficient to produce the behaviors you are reporting... especially when the problems are both at school AND at home. (some kids hold it together at school, and then explode at home... in which case, the probability is higher that the problem is school) Biggest thing is, at least the family doctor recognizes that there are issues. Time to get referrals. Someone else listed neuropsychologist. Some other options are Pediatric Psychiatrist (M.D. with training in behavior and mental health issues), or PhD in Psychology, or a behavioral clinic (staffed with multiple specialties). None of these will cover ALL the bases either - but should get you much closer on the next round of diagnoses... Kids can be both brilliant, and learning disabled, at the same time. Any chance of a learning disability? (dyslexia, dysgraphia, etc.) These can make school a total pain for the kid - he feels smart, but comes across dumb, and the other kids jump on that REALLY fast. Is he clumsy? if so, in general? or just gross motor skills? (think team sports, bike-riding, swimming) or just fine motor skills? (tieing shoes, printing, eating with fork and spoon, etc.) If there are motor skills issues, then you'll need whatever specialists can help with that (up here, there aren't any... we have to push buttons all over the place to get various specialties to do their bits and then convince someone else to join the dots!). Generally, this gets missed unless its part of a bigger package (for example, Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or CP would come with an expectation of some motor skills issues) - but CAN EXIST ALONE. Motor skills issues in school age kids are underdiagnosed and very under-accommodated - and extremely damaging to the kids self-image. And then... even IF it were just ADHD (not the highest probability, by the sounds of things, but...) there's enough chaos in his life that it would be hard for a non-difficult child kid to manage... but the problems seem to pre-date the latest developments, so these are complications rather than the source of the problem. Your swing-shift pattern may not be the ideal situation, because you can't keep every day the same. But please know that this will NOT be the root cause, either - just potentially a complicating factor. You need as complete a diagnosis as you can get - you won't get it all, even on this next pass - problems come in layers, so we can only deal with what is currently on the surface, and then see what else shows up. So, welcome to the process - it does get better (usually, eventually) [/QUOTE]
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