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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 68097" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>A point you need to consider (which a lot of psychiatrists don't) is that the environment affects our mood and how we react to things. The child was being seen by a completely new person, he could sense that a lot of importance hinged on how he presented himself, plus he knows something is wrong with him and it worries him, upsets him and also makes him angry.</p><p></p><p>Further down the track, as he comes to terms with his diagnosis, his condition in practical terms and his ability to cope (and as he finds new depths and values within himself) he will show much less of this.</p><p></p><p>I saw a psychiatrist when I was a hospital inpatient 10 years ago. I was in hospital to be tested for a number of problems (including the renal problem that's giving me grief now) and feeling frustrated by being there when my family needed me. The day I went in to hospital we had just had our younger three kids all diagnosed as ADHD with both boys being given autism labels. At a time when we needed to sit down together and talk about how we would cope, husband & I were apart and each trying to cope alone.</p><p>And the psychiatrist said I had dysthymia! All because when he saw me, I was still trying to deal with this news, in isolation, away from my family and away from my reference library. I was frustrated, distressed and frantic.</p><p></p><p>My next visitor, just after the psychiatrist left, was a psychologist who I had seen before in other contexts - I'd interviewed her, talked to her as a guest speaker at conferences, etc. She knew me well enough to be able to say, "Dysthymia? Rubbish! You've just got a lot more on your plate right now and you're still coming to terms with it. It's like saying that someone whose father has just died, has dysthymia."</p><p></p><p>I don't know whether she spoke to the psychiatrists or not, but they never came near me again, for the rest of my three week hospital stay. And since I was also supposed to be getting ongoing psychiatric counselling while there, I found that very interesting.</p><p></p><p>They labelled what they saw at the time, without considering where it was coming from.</p><p></p><p>Tests have been done on brainwave patterns of people suffering form depression. They also needed control samples to compare these too. An interesting phenomenon was found - just as they thought they had found brainwave patterns distinctive to patients with clinical depression (hence the reasons for this study) they had to change their thinking. While still hooked up to the EEG and after the main test had been completed, a 'control' subject was asked about her recent break-up with her boyfriend. As she talked about it, her brainwave pattern mimicked EXACTLY, the pattern of someone with clinical depression. Just for the few moments her ex-boyfriend was the topic.</p><p></p><p>They followed this through with the other controls and found the same thing - when each talked about what made them feel sad, their sadness was indistinguishable from clinical depression.</p><p>The big difference - it's a matter of degree. But if the psychiatrist doesn't consider that what he has seen may not have been typical, he can be easily misled.</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 68097, member: 1991"] A point you need to consider (which a lot of psychiatrists don't) is that the environment affects our mood and how we react to things. The child was being seen by a completely new person, he could sense that a lot of importance hinged on how he presented himself, plus he knows something is wrong with him and it worries him, upsets him and also makes him angry. Further down the track, as he comes to terms with his diagnosis, his condition in practical terms and his ability to cope (and as he finds new depths and values within himself) he will show much less of this. I saw a psychiatrist when I was a hospital inpatient 10 years ago. I was in hospital to be tested for a number of problems (including the renal problem that's giving me grief now) and feeling frustrated by being there when my family needed me. The day I went in to hospital we had just had our younger three kids all diagnosed as ADHD with both boys being given autism labels. At a time when we needed to sit down together and talk about how we would cope, husband & I were apart and each trying to cope alone. And the psychiatrist said I had dysthymia! All because when he saw me, I was still trying to deal with this news, in isolation, away from my family and away from my reference library. I was frustrated, distressed and frantic. My next visitor, just after the psychiatrist left, was a psychologist who I had seen before in other contexts - I'd interviewed her, talked to her as a guest speaker at conferences, etc. She knew me well enough to be able to say, "Dysthymia? Rubbish! You've just got a lot more on your plate right now and you're still coming to terms with it. It's like saying that someone whose father has just died, has dysthymia." I don't know whether she spoke to the psychiatrists or not, but they never came near me again, for the rest of my three week hospital stay. And since I was also supposed to be getting ongoing psychiatric counselling while there, I found that very interesting. They labelled what they saw at the time, without considering where it was coming from. Tests have been done on brainwave patterns of people suffering form depression. They also needed control samples to compare these too. An interesting phenomenon was found - just as they thought they had found brainwave patterns distinctive to patients with clinical depression (hence the reasons for this study) they had to change their thinking. While still hooked up to the EEG and after the main test had been completed, a 'control' subject was asked about her recent break-up with her boyfriend. As she talked about it, her brainwave pattern mimicked EXACTLY, the pattern of someone with clinical depression. Just for the few moments her ex-boyfriend was the topic. They followed this through with the other controls and found the same thing - when each talked about what made them feel sad, their sadness was indistinguishable from clinical depression. The big difference - it's a matter of degree. But if the psychiatrist doesn't consider that what he has seen may not have been typical, he can be easily misled. Marg [/QUOTE]
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