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<blockquote data-quote="smallworld" data-source="post: 326098" data-attributes="member: 2423"><p>Good morning, count!</p><p> </p><p>Glad you joined us, but sorry you need to. When you get a chance, please go to UserCP at the top lefthand corner of this page and create a signature that will appear at the bottom of your posts. It will help us keep the details of your family straight when we respond to your posts.</p><p> </p><p>Humor is definitely allowed and welcome here. But I'm going to answer your straight because there are many similarities between your family and mine that I want to share with you.</p><p> </p><p>First, some questions:</p><p>Has your middle son ever had a full neurospychological evaluation? If so, what did it show?</p><p>What medications is he currently taking? Do you notice any variability in his behavior throughout the day?</p><p>How does he do in school, both academically and with peers?</p><p>Does he have an IEP?</p><p>When you say he has ODD, what specific behaviors is he exhibiting?</p><p> </p><p>I have a strong belief that ODD is not a helpful diagnosis. ODD describes a set of behaviors for which there is an underlying cause. When the underlying disorder is identified and treated, the oppositional behaviors typically subside and improve. So in your case, I would say the professionals you're working with have yet to help you identify what is fueling your son's oppositional behaviors.</p><p> </p><p>Now a bit of background about my own family. I have three children with various flavors of mood disorders (no autistic specturm disorder dxes). My son J is my extra challenging child. Although his psychiatrist (psychiatrist) was able to stabilize him on medications a year ago, he continued to be academically underachieving, socially withdrawn and therapy resistant. J underwent psychological testing in April, and it was determined that he had an emergent Avoidant Personality Disorder that would develop within the next 2 to 3 years without intensive therapeutic intervention. We had exhausted all of our local options so our mental health team urged us to send J away from home. We used an educational consultant to locate programs that would be a good fit for J.</p><p> </p><p>J spent 8 weeks over the summer in a wilderness program in Georgia. Wilderness promotes internal change away from all distraction in a 24/7 therapeutic milieu that my son clearly needed and benfited from. J is now continuing to build on the internal changes begun in wilderness at an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) in Utah. We expect him to be there for a total of 9 to 12 months. He is making solid progress, and we are optimistic about his prognosis for the first time in years. </p><p> </p><p>I will not kid you -- these programs are expensive. We took out a loan to pay for J's year away. Some insurance companies will cover residential therapeutic placements (ours didn't) so you should check with a benefits representative. Depending on whether your son has an IEP and how he is doing in school, some SDs will fund residential placements (ours wouldn't). </p><p> </p><p>I hope this information will help somewhat. Please feel free to post any questions. Again, welcome.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="smallworld, post: 326098, member: 2423"] Good morning, count! Glad you joined us, but sorry you need to. When you get a chance, please go to UserCP at the top lefthand corner of this page and create a signature that will appear at the bottom of your posts. It will help us keep the details of your family straight when we respond to your posts. Humor is definitely allowed and welcome here. But I'm going to answer your straight because there are many similarities between your family and mine that I want to share with you. First, some questions: Has your middle son ever had a full neurospychological evaluation? If so, what did it show? What medications is he currently taking? Do you notice any variability in his behavior throughout the day? How does he do in school, both academically and with peers? Does he have an IEP? When you say he has ODD, what specific behaviors is he exhibiting? I have a strong belief that ODD is not a helpful diagnosis. ODD describes a set of behaviors for which there is an underlying cause. When the underlying disorder is identified and treated, the oppositional behaviors typically subside and improve. So in your case, I would say the professionals you're working with have yet to help you identify what is fueling your son's oppositional behaviors. Now a bit of background about my own family. I have three children with various flavors of mood disorders (no autistic specturm disorder dxes). My son J is my extra challenging child. Although his psychiatrist (psychiatrist) was able to stabilize him on medications a year ago, he continued to be academically underachieving, socially withdrawn and therapy resistant. J underwent psychological testing in April, and it was determined that he had an emergent Avoidant Personality Disorder that would develop within the next 2 to 3 years without intensive therapeutic intervention. We had exhausted all of our local options so our mental health team urged us to send J away from home. We used an educational consultant to locate programs that would be a good fit for J. J spent 8 weeks over the summer in a wilderness program in Georgia. Wilderness promotes internal change away from all distraction in a 24/7 therapeutic milieu that my son clearly needed and benfited from. J is now continuing to build on the internal changes begun in wilderness at an Residential Treatment Center (RTC) in Utah. We expect him to be there for a total of 9 to 12 months. He is making solid progress, and we are optimistic about his prognosis for the first time in years. I will not kid you -- these programs are expensive. We took out a loan to pay for J's year away. Some insurance companies will cover residential therapeutic placements (ours didn't) so you should check with a benefits representative. Depending on whether your son has an IEP and how he is doing in school, some SDs will fund residential placements (ours wouldn't). I hope this information will help somewhat. Please feel free to post any questions. Again, welcome. [/QUOTE]
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