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<blockquote data-quote="BusynMember" data-source="post: 522647" data-attributes="member: 1550"><p>Well, I disagree. It is different in different countries. She will not get much help with a simple ADHD diagnosis and it sounds like her child is really struggling. I had trouble getting help for my daughter. I was told out and out, "ADHD will not necessarily get you any interventions." It is that other stuff that Insane Canadian is talking about that could get the kid some help...the other things that some psychiatrists, especially in some countries, do not like to name. A mood disorder, sensory integration disorder, dyslexia, auditory processing disorder, Aspergers...these will get your child help. A simple diagnosis of ADD or ADHD is not on the list of disorders that HAVE to be accomodated. </p><p></p><p>And, trust me, schools do not like to accommodate if they don't have to. It costs them money. Even worse, in my opinion, a child diagnosed with only ADHD who acts out at school can be seen as a behavioral problem due to parenting issues and treated as a "bad" kid from a bad family (yes, they judge the family too). They put these kids together and often they pick up "bad" things from each other because they believe they are "bad." </p><p></p><p>I do not know how they handle ADHD in France...or Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or bipolar or other things that kids have. But in the US you can get really good help for your child if he has the right, complete diagnosis. Without it, your child struggles and probably ends up being seen as bad. In the US at least, in my opinion it is not worth it. So where you live does matter...again in my opinion.</p><p></p><p>I have been told that things like depression and mood disorders are not diagnosed in most countries, yet I had one. I was the most depressed kid in the world and wanted to kill myself. This was at six years old and it only got worse as I got older. I was labeled "lazy" "a behavior problem" "slow" and a host of other things when my actual problems were depression with multiple learning problems that were quite severe. This was back in the 1960's so I got no help at all. I got bullied and teased, but not helped. This is MY story. The school considered "hyperactivity" when I was in my teens. It was brand new back then. I was actually extremely depressed/suicidal in my teens and very out of control. I took Ritalin and it made me worse. I did not have ADHD as my main problem. But back then, it was ADHD or nothing. That's what I see still going on in some other countries.</p><p></p><p>I agree that this is a worthwhile discussion, but probably should have been on it's own thread <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" />.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="BusynMember, post: 522647, member: 1550"] Well, I disagree. It is different in different countries. She will not get much help with a simple ADHD diagnosis and it sounds like her child is really struggling. I had trouble getting help for my daughter. I was told out and out, "ADHD will not necessarily get you any interventions." It is that other stuff that Insane Canadian is talking about that could get the kid some help...the other things that some psychiatrists, especially in some countries, do not like to name. A mood disorder, sensory integration disorder, dyslexia, auditory processing disorder, Aspergers...these will get your child help. A simple diagnosis of ADD or ADHD is not on the list of disorders that HAVE to be accomodated. And, trust me, schools do not like to accommodate if they don't have to. It costs them money. Even worse, in my opinion, a child diagnosed with only ADHD who acts out at school can be seen as a behavioral problem due to parenting issues and treated as a "bad" kid from a bad family (yes, they judge the family too). They put these kids together and often they pick up "bad" things from each other because they believe they are "bad." I do not know how they handle ADHD in France...or Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASD) or bipolar or other things that kids have. But in the US you can get really good help for your child if he has the right, complete diagnosis. Without it, your child struggles and probably ends up being seen as bad. In the US at least, in my opinion it is not worth it. So where you live does matter...again in my opinion. I have been told that things like depression and mood disorders are not diagnosed in most countries, yet I had one. I was the most depressed kid in the world and wanted to kill myself. This was at six years old and it only got worse as I got older. I was labeled "lazy" "a behavior problem" "slow" and a host of other things when my actual problems were depression with multiple learning problems that were quite severe. This was back in the 1960's so I got no help at all. I got bullied and teased, but not helped. This is MY story. The school considered "hyperactivity" when I was in my teens. It was brand new back then. I was actually extremely depressed/suicidal in my teens and very out of control. I took Ritalin and it made me worse. I did not have ADHD as my main problem. But back then, it was ADHD or nothing. That's what I see still going on in some other countries. I agree that this is a worthwhile discussion, but probably should have been on it's own thread :). [/QUOTE]
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