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<blockquote data-quote="Marguerite" data-source="post: 127147" data-attributes="member: 1991"><p>G'day, Snowie.</p><p></p><p>You're doing the right thing getting your son checked out for ADHD.</p><p></p><p>Other conditions can also cause similar signs to what you see, but if he's got to age 11 without someone insisting you get him tested, he's not doing too badly.</p><p></p><p>What did the pediatrician say yesterday? By now he should have given yu some idea, some tentative diagnosis that you can take to the school and ask them for support.</p><p></p><p>Interesting he has social s kills issues as well - these are not, in my understanding, a usual part of ADHD. They ARE connected to Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD), however. OK, ADHD kids can sometimes be doing not so good socially, because of their impulsivity, but generally there are some kids who will be more understanding and who will welcome them into their social circle. Unless the social problems are deeper - just can't 'connect', for example.</p><p></p><p>Support is available, but a diagnosis is generally needed. ADHD diagnosis won't automatically get support, and you do have to ask for it. difficult child 1 had a diagnosis of ADHD when he went into high school; I remember talking to the school about the problems he had, and they never once suggested I apply for support funding. And they darn well should have; it was another four years before we applied. And as it turned out, it was the Asperger's diagnosis that made it possible.</p><p></p><p>Your son could well have ADHD, but just to think about it (ad maybe help the pediatrician see the range of things that may be concerning you) go to <a href="http://www.childbrain.com" target="_blank">www.childbrain.com</a> and look for the online Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire. You can't use it to diagnose, but if you print out the results and take them to the pediatrician, he will see what is worrying you and may have some answers.</p><p></p><p>When difficult child 1 was first diagnosed ADHD at age 6 (which he has as well as diagnosis of Asperger's made when he was 15) the doctor said to us that if he offered difficult child 1 $20 to sit still for ten minutes, he wouldn't be able to comply. He would be highly motivated, and he would know how to do it intellectually, but he simply couldn't do it.</p><p></p><p>We punish our kids for what really is often beyond their ability. To punish a kid with ADHD for not being able to sit still, is unfair. It's like punishing a kid with a broken leg, for not running in an egg and spoon race.</p><p></p><p>If you want to know about support, check out the Special Education forum here. It is US-based, but the Aussie system is very similar. The thing to watch out for - unless the school has experienced the various bits of paperwork before, they won't be helpful abut getting you support. You have to do it yourself. Also watch out for the District Office disabilities people who do not like to spend money - you could be lucky and be in a good area, or you could be in MY area where we have the Disability staff from purgatory.</p><p></p><p>Which reminds me - I use the word 'purgatory' instead of the smaller word because most people on this site ARE from the US and they have different language usage acceptability to us Down Under. So avoid quoting the Toyota ad, also.</p><p></p><p>When you can, do yourself a sig (like mine underneath) so your details/kids' details don't have to get outlined each time. Saves you time etc. You should find it under UserCP at the top left of the page. And keep your details confidential, so you can't be tracked to here - you probably have no reason to worry at this stage, but I found that I was being tracked by local personnel, who were looking for everything I was writing. By using a pseudonym here, I can't be tracked. This means when I want to vent about the lousy rotten so-and-sos who did everything in the book to block difficult child 3's access to Distance Ed, purely because they believe an autistic kid should be in mainstream (to get beaten up and bullied every day) because it's GOOD for him, then I can say so freely, knowing they won't know it's me (and can't use it against me).</p><p></p><p>OK, I can be tracked from here to my secret identity (and location) but the chances of them finding this site, considering I won't tell them, are remote. The chances of them identifying ME out of everyone here - even more remote. Which is why I occasionally slip (deliberately) to share personal stuff with friends I've made on this site.</p><p></p><p>What I found after joining this site (purely from an Aussie perspective) - I felt empowered to take the chances I was being told not to, by local educators. I found when I took those chances that things improved a great deal. There was also a lot of support available that I wasn't being told about, that is actually supposed to be freely available to Aussie kids too. Fed Govt pays for it, State govt administers it (if you're in state-based schooling). If you're in an independent school you still should be able to access Fed Govt disability funding, but you need to go through the school's counsellor as a first port of call.</p><p></p><p>For now - I'd be talking to the school counsellor, ASAP. Your son will be high-school age all too soon, he will need A LOT MORE help in high school, you really need to get ready NOW, even assuming you don't want to apply for support this year.</p><p></p><p>And forget about the stigma of labels - what about the stigma he already has, of being the problem kid with poor social skills who can't sit still and who is about to get expelled?</p><p></p><p>If you tell the school about his provisional diagnosis, they should hold off the expulsion. A kid shouldn't be expelled when the problems are due to a learning problem like this, and he hasn't had any support.</p><p></p><p>Again, check Special Education forum.</p><p></p><p>Are you in NSW? Sydney area at all? Or interstate from me? State? Or private? Wherever, help is available.</p><p></p><p>Also, we're here too. And crikey, do we understand!</p><p></p><p>Marg</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Marguerite, post: 127147, member: 1991"] G'day, Snowie. You're doing the right thing getting your son checked out for ADHD. Other conditions can also cause similar signs to what you see, but if he's got to age 11 without someone insisting you get him tested, he's not doing too badly. What did the pediatrician say yesterday? By now he should have given yu some idea, some tentative diagnosis that you can take to the school and ask them for support. Interesting he has social s kills issues as well - these are not, in my understanding, a usual part of ADHD. They ARE connected to Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD), however. OK, ADHD kids can sometimes be doing not so good socially, because of their impulsivity, but generally there are some kids who will be more understanding and who will welcome them into their social circle. Unless the social problems are deeper - just can't 'connect', for example. Support is available, but a diagnosis is generally needed. ADHD diagnosis won't automatically get support, and you do have to ask for it. difficult child 1 had a diagnosis of ADHD when he went into high school; I remember talking to the school about the problems he had, and they never once suggested I apply for support funding. And they darn well should have; it was another four years before we applied. And as it turned out, it was the Asperger's diagnosis that made it possible. Your son could well have ADHD, but just to think about it (ad maybe help the pediatrician see the range of things that may be concerning you) go to [url]www.childbrain.com[/url] and look for the online Pervasive Developmental Disorder (PDD) questionnaire. You can't use it to diagnose, but if you print out the results and take them to the pediatrician, he will see what is worrying you and may have some answers. When difficult child 1 was first diagnosed ADHD at age 6 (which he has as well as diagnosis of Asperger's made when he was 15) the doctor said to us that if he offered difficult child 1 $20 to sit still for ten minutes, he wouldn't be able to comply. He would be highly motivated, and he would know how to do it intellectually, but he simply couldn't do it. We punish our kids for what really is often beyond their ability. To punish a kid with ADHD for not being able to sit still, is unfair. It's like punishing a kid with a broken leg, for not running in an egg and spoon race. If you want to know about support, check out the Special Education forum here. It is US-based, but the Aussie system is very similar. The thing to watch out for - unless the school has experienced the various bits of paperwork before, they won't be helpful abut getting you support. You have to do it yourself. Also watch out for the District Office disabilities people who do not like to spend money - you could be lucky and be in a good area, or you could be in MY area where we have the Disability staff from purgatory. Which reminds me - I use the word 'purgatory' instead of the smaller word because most people on this site ARE from the US and they have different language usage acceptability to us Down Under. So avoid quoting the Toyota ad, also. When you can, do yourself a sig (like mine underneath) so your details/kids' details don't have to get outlined each time. Saves you time etc. You should find it under UserCP at the top left of the page. And keep your details confidential, so you can't be tracked to here - you probably have no reason to worry at this stage, but I found that I was being tracked by local personnel, who were looking for everything I was writing. By using a pseudonym here, I can't be tracked. This means when I want to vent about the lousy rotten so-and-sos who did everything in the book to block difficult child 3's access to Distance Ed, purely because they believe an autistic kid should be in mainstream (to get beaten up and bullied every day) because it's GOOD for him, then I can say so freely, knowing they won't know it's me (and can't use it against me). OK, I can be tracked from here to my secret identity (and location) but the chances of them finding this site, considering I won't tell them, are remote. The chances of them identifying ME out of everyone here - even more remote. Which is why I occasionally slip (deliberately) to share personal stuff with friends I've made on this site. What I found after joining this site (purely from an Aussie perspective) - I felt empowered to take the chances I was being told not to, by local educators. I found when I took those chances that things improved a great deal. There was also a lot of support available that I wasn't being told about, that is actually supposed to be freely available to Aussie kids too. Fed Govt pays for it, State govt administers it (if you're in state-based schooling). If you're in an independent school you still should be able to access Fed Govt disability funding, but you need to go through the school's counsellor as a first port of call. For now - I'd be talking to the school counsellor, ASAP. Your son will be high-school age all too soon, he will need A LOT MORE help in high school, you really need to get ready NOW, even assuming you don't want to apply for support this year. And forget about the stigma of labels - what about the stigma he already has, of being the problem kid with poor social skills who can't sit still and who is about to get expelled? If you tell the school about his provisional diagnosis, they should hold off the expulsion. A kid shouldn't be expelled when the problems are due to a learning problem like this, and he hasn't had any support. Again, check Special Education forum. Are you in NSW? Sydney area at all? Or interstate from me? State? Or private? Wherever, help is available. Also, we're here too. And crikey, do we understand! Marg [/QUOTE]
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